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Don Nickles Calls for New Senate Leadership Election to Challenge Lott
Fox News | 12-15-02

Posted on 12/15/2002 6:33:57 AM PST by rightwing2

Fox News just reported that ABC reported that Nickles has called for a new Senate leadership challenge to Trent Lott!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bigcanodumbass; gop; lott; nickels; senate
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To: EternalVigilance
Well I have posted my prediction about Nickles. One of us is wrong. I am seldom wrong when I choose to make a prediction. :)
921 posted on 12/15/2002 1:34:49 PM PST by Torie
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To: Walkin Man
And if you do this to Lott, you are playing right into the hands of the demagogues!

So much irony in one exclamation point.




922 posted on 12/15/2002 1:40:27 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: marajade
"The vote for conviction and removal of our disgraced former President was very much winnable."

Okie dokie...

It was winnable. The conventional wisdom until the days just before the vote in the House was that the vote there would not win, either. History will reflect the arguments presented by the House Managers to have been the better argument and history will reflect the roadblocks thrown in their path.

Now, back to the topic at hand...

923 posted on 12/15/2002 1:41:52 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Sabertooth
Its true as Jesse said you are playing right into the hands of the demagogues. And you seem to love it.
924 posted on 12/15/2002 1:42:32 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: McGavin999

Now you are wanting the guy to have some sense.... LOL.. When he couldn't think fast enough to pour water out of a boot with instructions on the heel. One minute he's dumb or incomptent and the next you want him to be logical and smart. He may fall for it but I don't know. Didn't Byrd sorta have the same thing happen to him and he took the Chairmanship of the Appropriations Committee after stepping down from SML. So maybe things happen that way but I don't see it in the cards. I see it happening more like Newt, Livingston, etc. Has it hurt either of them with their future endeavors... Granted their dallies weren't racist but still they have survived.

Well all this and the real answer is time will tell....

925 posted on 12/15/2002 1:43:25 PM PST by deport
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To: McGavin999
I got some news for you; the only reason why the Democrats are going after Lott to resign from the Senate is because they have one and only one leaper willing to leap, and they're confident that if Lott doesn't leave to give them an illegitimate "majority", he'll be so weakened, that he'll have no choice but to give them power-"sharing". Replacing Lott with another "compromiser" would have the same result.

If they had both Chafee and McCain ready to bolt, they would have bolted, and Lott would have been left alone for now (so he'd remain the face of the Senate Repubicans come 2004). Similarily, if nobody was ready to bolt yet, they wouldn't risk getting a majority leader who is willing to lead and definitely wouldn't risk losing the issue that Lott's become.

926 posted on 12/15/2002 1:44:32 PM PST by steveegg
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To: Torie
its TLB torie so you aren't always right but I sure am.
927 posted on 12/15/2002 1:45:17 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
BLT would be more like it.
928 posted on 12/15/2002 1:46:01 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
Well I have posted my prediction about Nickles. One of us is wrong. I am seldom wrong when I choose to make a prediction. :)

I will make a left field prediction. It will be a back bencher from somewhere other than the south. The senate wants to move on. Doesn't matter if the candidate is squeaky clean, they just don't want this to become a "southern" issue.

Santorum anyone?

929 posted on 12/15/2002 1:46:06 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: TLBSHOW
Its true as Jesse said you are playing right into the hands of the demagogues. And you seem to love it.

It was Trent Lott who played into the hands of the demagogues.
I know you know this, and I know you don't seem to mind, but for some reason I feel an impulse to repeat the truth, over and over.




930 posted on 12/15/2002 1:46:37 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: McGavin999
Did you read my entire post?

Yes I did...I just picked that out because I felt it to be the most pertinent to this discussion.

Frist would hold the position while the party has a chance to straighten this mess out.

Marking time is awful strategy. We're the majority party, and it is time to consolidate that majority. We MUST take the initiative NOW.

The sole purpose is to give us some time.

We don't need time for waiting...that would only serve the Democrats. We own the government...it's time we did something with it, dammit!

He is the only one with enough political savy to run this gamit without losing Chafee or McCain and he's only going to be in the senate until the end of his current term.

Baloney. I could give you a long list of Frist's bone-headed errors of the last two years as head of the Senatorial Committee, if I thought it would serve any of us to do so. i would just as soon you didn't force me to delineate them right now for the sake of unity.

We e a mess on our hands, not just caused by Lott, but by the dems who now think they have a political advantage.

Another squish moderate who works against conservative interests in the Leader's job isn't going to make any of that go away...it will only exascerbate the problems.

...willpush Bush's agenda and do a fine job and then will leave the field open to Lott, McConnell, and Nichols to fight it out over the position once this firestorm has died down.

Firestorms never end in DC, they just shift around to new parts of the forest. Do the right thing for the long-term and things will work out just fine down the road.

931 posted on 12/15/2002 1:47:38 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: dogbyte12
Santorum anyone?

Sure. Bring him on! :-)

932 posted on 12/15/2002 1:49:08 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Sabertooth
Some people baffle me. Why can't they accept Lott did it to himself? The clincher is Howard Fineman's report that Bush told Lott to say "segregation was immoral" on his Larry King interview Wednesday, and Lott didn't do it.

That is Maxine Waters' fault how? Maybe Peggy Noonan should be to blame. She should have written a speech for Chester so she is to blame. It took Lott until Friday to utter those words, only when his back was up against the wall. Perhaps William F. Buckley ordered him to act stupid, and it's Bill's fault.

Oye Vey

933 posted on 12/15/2002 1:49:28 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: dogbyte12
Nope, no way. Too young, too brash, too much a showboater. I don't think he is viewed as a heavyweight among his collegues. I don't mean to be harsh, and I don't claim to be the pro on this, but this is my sense of it.
934 posted on 12/15/2002 1:49:51 PM PST by Torie
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To: Sabertooth

935 posted on 12/15/2002 1:50:05 PM PST by Madcelt
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To: Torie
You better add rintense into your little list since I don't think she is buying the bull either coming from the right.
936 posted on 12/15/2002 1:50:06 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Torie
Torie, from what I have read, a heavyweight is not what is required for a leader. I have read time and time again, that Senator's egos are such that they do not want the "brightest light" leading them, they just want somebody who gets along with everybody and can present a good face on tv. I don't know if they will view Santorum thusly, but lack of intellectual credentials has never been a stumbling point in becoming ML.
937 posted on 12/15/2002 1:51:44 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: Torie
You know I get that kind of crap from William Pitt!

Hummm
938 posted on 12/15/2002 1:51:56 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: ImphClinton

Power sharing lasted about 5 months while the senate was 50/50.... after that the Democrats were the majority and controlled with no power sharing as was the agreement. Not sure about how you get judges approved when you don't control the committees...

Tom.... who is Tom, that darn good senator?

939 posted on 12/15/2002 1:51:59 PM PST by deport
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To: EternalVigilance
Another one...





940 posted on 12/15/2002 1:52:37 PM PST by Sabertooth
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