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Alarm Plan: Police May Quit Reacting (Los Angeles)
Los Angeles Daily News ^ | 12/02/02 | Mariel Garza

Posted on 12/14/2002 4:02:37 PM PST by Mark

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I wonder how Mayor Bloomberg of NY would handle this?
1 posted on 12/14/2002 4:02:37 PM PST by Mark
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The cops wont respond to private property alarms unless you are a gun dealer...but the invidual may not own a gun for personal defense because the court determined this is a collective right (milita=national guard) and not an individual right...

Hey ees not my yob..main...
Next up: Police wont respond to 911 calls
2 posted on 12/14/2002 4:08:06 PM PST by joesnuffy
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To: Mark
The cops wont respond to private property alarms unless you are a gun dealer...but the invidual may not own a gun for personal defense because the court determined this is a collective right (milita=national guard) and not an individual right...

Hey ees not my yob..main...

Next up: Police wont respond to 911 calls
3 posted on 12/14/2002 4:08:30 PM PST by joesnuffy
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911 calls are put on hold for up to a half an hour sometimes anyway.
4 posted on 12/14/2002 4:11:08 PM PST by Mark
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(LA cops)'OK, we took away the right of you citizens to protect yourselves, and now we won't protect you either.'

Why anyone is Kalifornia would put up with this is beyond me.

5 posted on 12/14/2002 4:12:50 PM PST by wcbtinman
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"The only way burglars ever get caught in this country are with alarm systems. They never get caught in another way," said George Gunning of Canoga Park, co-owner of USA Alarm Systems Inc. and a founding member of the Greater Los Angeles Security Alarm Association.

I would disagree with that.

6 posted on 12/14/2002 4:13:44 PM PST by Mark
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New York is worse as far as gun control goes and DC too, but NY has a lot more cops.
7 posted on 12/14/2002 4:15:56 PM PST by Mark
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There are probably a LOT of people serving 25 years for their third strike burglary who also disagree.
8 posted on 12/14/2002 4:24:15 PM PST by Enterprise
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DeShaney v. Winnebago

A State's failure to protect an individual against private violence generally does not constitute a violation of the Due Process Clause, because the Clause imposes no duty on the State to provide members of the general public with adequate protective services. The Clause is phrased as a limitation on the State's power to act, not as a guarantee of certain minimal levels of safety and security; while it forbids the State itself to deprive individuals of life, liberty, and property without due process of law, its language cannot fairly be read to impose an affirmative obligation on the State to ensure that those interests do not come to harm through other means.

9 posted on 12/14/2002 4:37:56 PM PST by michigander
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Next up: Police wont respond to 911 calls.

Looks like a tremendous private enterprise opportunity. We have private schools, why not private police? Likely would be more efficient than the "government" police anyway.

10 posted on 12/14/2002 4:38:48 PM PST by toddst
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There are tons of private security services here. Unfortunately, they are usually staffed by $8.00 per hour weenies who's only job it is to call the police!!
11 posted on 12/14/2002 4:42:05 PM PST by calljack
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To: toddst
Cost of insurance is too high. However, rest assured as things become worse there will be private police.
12 posted on 12/14/2002 4:42:30 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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Looks like a tremendous private enterprise opportunity. We have private schools, why not private police? Likely would be more efficient than the "government" police anyway.

I'd love to see that happen. But then many government police would probably spend 100% of their time harrassing the private police for horning in on their union-protected jobs.

13 posted on 12/14/2002 4:46:32 PM PST by bimbo
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I'm not surprised. From my experience 99.999999999999 %
of those alarms are false. It's a huge waste of money.

14 posted on 12/14/2002 4:49:56 PM PST by UB355
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Did anyone else catch the fact that there are a total of 30 gun dealers in the entire LA city limits? This is the biggest or second biggest metro area in the U.S.--these must be Megalogunmarts, right?

As if I had to ask. No wonder they are cutting back on police--the RAT politicians running that city want to give their power base a little extra something in their stockings this Xmas. Like a black market big screen.
15 posted on 12/14/2002 5:26:11 PM PST by LibertarianInExile
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we cut our alarm contract....

the alarm company wouldnt take the system out...because I told them we were on a month to month lease...they stuck stickers all over the alarm box in the office hoping the next tenants would call for service...

in 7 years, all the trips were accidental, and I would have to get out of bed because some rat or mouse ran through a beam in the lobby...

and, every time the police came out after your free two visits, it was $150 fine...

what a rip.... we are in a service industry though, and in Burbank....used to be in Lost Angeles, until a armed foot pursuit ran through our office.

16 posted on 12/14/2002 5:29:57 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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"The only way burglars ever get caught in this country are with alarm systems. They never get caught in another way."

Maybe not in L.A. they don't, but in Texas they get caught all the time by armed homeowners.

17 posted on 12/14/2002 5:58:58 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: calljack
There are tons of private security services here. Unfortunately, they are usually staffed by $8.00 per hour weenies who's only job it is to call the police!!

Those are the rent-a-cops who deal with middle-class homeowners. It's a different story for the extremely wealthy -- they can afford to hire off-duty cops and ex-special-forces for THIER security

18 posted on 12/14/2002 6:00:14 PM PST by SauronOfMordor
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We got an alarm because police protection in LA stinks to begin with. One might recall the 92 riots when it broke down completely for 4 full days.

Then the police charge for an alarm permit, threatening one with jail if it isn't paid. Now this.

I'll be damned and dead before I'll ever give up my guns. This city's poltical leadership and its new, more-starstruck-every-day police chief can go to hell.

19 posted on 12/14/2002 6:25:18 PM PST by onedoug
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(LA cops)'OK, we took away the right of you citizens to protect yourselves, and now we won't protect you either.'

Wise up.

The Police never could protect you.

There are more guns in private hands in California than *any* other state in the country.

Ask the rioters of 92 in LA about going into the Korean community. They got their a$$es shot off and many decided it just wasn't worth it as the koreans brought out their arms in a big way. It was a sight to behold.

20 posted on 12/14/2002 6:36:59 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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