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Trent Lott's Debacle - Now, Bush Must Act
December 14th, 2002 | Sabertooth

Posted on 12/14/2002 10:47:02 AM PST by Sabertooth

Once again, in his own indelible words, the Republicans' Senate Majority Leader-elect:

"I want to say this about my state: When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either."

~Trent Lott - December, 2002

When Strom Thurmond ran for President, he was a segregationist Dixiecrat spurred into revolt against the Democrats by Hubert Humphrey's Civil Rights plank in the '48 Democratic Party platform. Mississippi was one of four segregationist Southern States that voted for Thurmond. Segregation was the purpose and limited appeal of the Dixiecrats. It was the banner under which they marched.

The plainest sense of Lott's words are that he approves of the above.

Even though I don't believe that's what Lott meant, nor that he's a racist, that fact is inescapable. It takes backpedaling and damage control to escape the plain meaning of what Lott said and explain what's really in his heart. It's disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

The only way to for Trent Lott to address Thurmond's '48 campaign would have been to chart how far the retiring senior Senator from South Carolina has traveled in the last 54 years, and to use him as a metaphor to further illustrate how far the South and America have come. Had he done this, Lott could have simultaneously honored the Centenarian Senator and reiterated that Republicans, like the South and like America, have learned the errors of racism and segregation, and have long since embarked on a better path.

That Lott could not grasp this after decades in Washington is striking, particularly since this isn't the first time he's failed to navigate this reef. Speaking after a Thurmond speech for Ronald Reagan in 1980, then-Congressman Lott told the crowd: ""You know, if we had elected this man 30 years ago, we wouldn't be in the mess we are today."

Now, the Democrats are all over the opportunity Lott has injudiciously provided to them. That it seems unfair is irrelevant. He left himself open for the sucker punch and got pounded. He's only made matters worse with his tepid series of apologies: too little, too Lott. He is finished as a Senate Majority Leader of even mediocre effectiveness. It's time to cut our losses.

President Bush needs to invite Lott to the ranch in Crawford, and offer him a more artful and diplomatic rendering of the following:

"Senator, with your ill-advised remarks you've brought turmoil and embarrassment on yourself, the party, and the country. You've served all well in the past and I thank you for that service from the bottom of my heart. Unfortunately, the events of the past few weeks call for a reassessment of the nature of your future service. The horses have left the barn, but there does remain an open path for you, a path that is both honorable and humbling: step aside as Majority Leader and continue to serve in the Senate.

I understand the sacrifice my request places on you, and sympathize with it's burden, but our nation and our agenda are in peril.

I need you, and I'm asking you as you President to do this for the good of America."



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
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To: TLBSHOW
So answer the question what is your real motive?

To see to it that a buffoon who's been politically crippled by his own mouth doesn't further damage the Republicans' possession of the Executive Branch, and both chambers of the Legislative Branch, which they control simultaneously for the first time in my lifetime.




361 posted on 12/14/2002 10:15:53 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Texasforever
The end of Jim Crow is the beginning of more equal opportunity; it does not promise equal ends, or at least shouldn't. To tout the abuse of the civil rights movement is a deflection. Are you making some slippery slope argument here? In any event, even if there were some merit in it, and I find little or none, some slippery slopes one must tread because it is a moral imperative to do so.
362 posted on 12/14/2002 10:18:45 PM PST by Torie
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To: TLBSHOW
Everyone of those writers including I may add Noonan are now being used by the rats against the right, you see no problem with that?

Am I being used by the Rats. I havent even listened to them complain. I heard the news report, then listen and read what he said and thought what an idiot. Then four days later he sends out his press guy to say if anyone misunderstand his remarks it was their fault. A week after his remarks he finally gets close to a real apology but he still cant say he was wrong. Barf. As inexcusable as the comments were he could have gotten out of this unscathed if he could have made a personal heart felt apology the next day. But no. Could not do it. Now we all suffer the consequences.

363 posted on 12/14/2002 10:19:23 PM PST by Dave S
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To: TLBSHOW
Everyone of those writers including I may add Noonan are now being used by the rats against the right, you see no problem with that?

Huh??? ..

364 posted on 12/14/2002 10:19:40 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Texasforever
You're wasting your time. The appetite of the self righteous (especially those blue zoners who can't even get their own house in order) is insatiable.

They will probably get their way and we will gain zip. Are we also going to now start supporting affirmative action and all the other Dem black pet causes so we can reduce black support for the Dems from say 95% to maybe 90%.

Another 50 years of Mexican immigration and the black vote will be about as pivotal as the Chinese vote is now. We're wasting our time. Blacks who think right need to join us (and be capable of honest and candid and painful racial discourse). We don't need to join them.
365 posted on 12/14/2002 10:20:20 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: Torie
find little or none, some slippery slopes one must tread because it is a moral imperative to do so.

There is no slippery slope we have already slid to the bottom. The racial and group identity strategy is the only thing the democrats have. It works for them because their constituencies benefit from keep the racial flames burning. It will keep working for them as long as anyone that challenges them in any way can be professionally destroyed with a slip of the tongue. This is 2002 not 1948 and the racial situation is worse than ever. Yes blacks have unfettered ballot access and they use it almost exclusively to keep the racial fire alive and well.

366 posted on 12/14/2002 10:27:00 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Torie
When and if she does I am willing to bet it won't be anything like the writers I mentioned and you mentioned wrote. She is too smart and 100% correct when she writes unlike all of the ones we have mentioned that are now working and being used by the rats.
367 posted on 12/14/2002 10:27:16 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: rintense
"It’s time for all Republicans to step up to the plate and knock this issue out of the park."

Oh yes!

You get it!

I think we can start by pointing out that there is NO White Congressional Caucus.

Racism comes in many colors.

368 posted on 12/14/2002 10:28:01 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Sabertooth
Looks like another shoe might drop. Just got alerted to a 3rd time Lott did the Thurmond comment. Left wing hack is trying to get reporters interested in an audio tape of Lott.

The occasion is the signing of the Spence / Warner Defense Spending Bill in October of 2000, and the remark--which is made by Lott to a woman standing behind Senator Thurmond, who is himself in the process of signing the bill--is NOT directed to the senator himself, but is offered as an aside (furthermore, this event was in no way intended as a tribute to Thurmond, as the birthday celebration was, and thus seems not to have been inspired directly by any attempt to please Mr. Thurmond w/o any actual endorsement of Thurmond's Dixiecrat platform, as Lott has claimed the birthday tribute was). The remark is exactly as follows, and though spoken off-camera, is quite audible: "Yes...he should have been elected in 1947...or 1948, it was".)

If this tape actually does exist....

369 posted on 12/14/2002 10:28:07 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: Texasforever
So you seem to think that the conservative intellectual movement has an inability to separate one from the other. That is ludicrous.
370 posted on 12/14/2002 10:30:10 PM PST by Torie
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To: Mo1
Fact, rats are using them against us! They are lol that they really don't have to do anythng more to help our party fall. Those writers mentioned did it for them.
371 posted on 12/14/2002 10:30:35 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Texasforever
Again...bump. You are saying exactly what I would say from my own experiences only more eloquently. How do you feel being the little boy in the crowd pointing out The Emporer's New Clothes?

It's been a bit lonely here today from my cat's perch....watching the feeding frenzy. I think the Libertinians may be right...there really is little difference between Pubbies and Dems...at least today. This is the largest collection of race smearing Conservatives I've ever seen assembled.

The last election now seems like a long ago dream doesn't it?
372 posted on 12/14/2002 10:33:46 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: dogbyte12
Truman was elected that year I believe, you know the one whos family owned slaves.
373 posted on 12/14/2002 10:34:49 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Torie
So you seem to think that the conservative intellectual movement has an inability to separate one from the other. That is ludicrous.

I haven't seen such ability. When that has happened it is met with overwhelming cries of racism and quickly abandoned. To be branded "racist" in public life is a capital offence.

374 posted on 12/14/2002 10:35:33 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: dogbyte12
That doesn't mean much. It was just one of his bits on one of his que cards (that most politicians keep, either on actual cards, or in their mind) that he trundled out whenever the moment seemed right. In fact, it may be exculpatory, sort of. It suggests that he kept playing a golden oldie without any thought. When Lott is asked when he decided segregation was wrong, and whatever date or time frame that was, why he never gave voice to it at that time, and waited until now, what do you think he will say by the way? That question is sure to be asked soon.
375 posted on 12/14/2002 10:36:23 PM PST by Torie
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To: TLBSHOW
Well I haven't had a chance to read all of the article but I wouldn't say that .. Most of those writers intellegent people ..

I can understand why they are upset with Lott .. what he said was very insensitive
376 posted on 12/14/2002 10:37:05 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Texasforever
they're all scared of being called racist as Jesse Lee says it's white fear.
377 posted on 12/14/2002 10:37:14 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Torie
Torie are you a republican?
378 posted on 12/14/2002 10:39:07 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: rintense; Luis Gonzalez
Good work from you both.

This issue has about fried me for the day. Upstream all day even against former like minded allies.

I salute your well thought out reply Rintense ma'am.
379 posted on 12/14/2002 10:39:27 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
I am about to drop the entire issue because the situation is futile. Lott will be forced out and those that force him out will sleep the sleep of the angels until the next sacrifice to the PC Gods is offered up and the acolytes reassemble.
380 posted on 12/14/2002 10:40:26 PM PST by Texasforever
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