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Lott Must GO (NY POST Editorial)
NY Post ^ | 12-14-02 | NY Post Editors

Posted on 12/14/2002 10:40:58 AM PST by dogbyte12

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:10:42 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

December 14, 2002 -- Sen. Trent Lott still doesn't get it.

Yesterday he offered up yet another dose of contrition for the inanity he pronounced a week ago.

But it won't fly.

"I want to say this about my state," Lott said. "When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either."


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Mississippi; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aquanet; cheerleader; deadhorsealert; dunce; lott; shellac; toesuckersboy; vacant
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To: yoe
The New York Post Championed the likes of Bill Clinton for TEN long years from the time he was the sex driven governor of Arkansas! They held up the leader of this nation as a misunderstood “boyish” fellow. That rag has no creditability left and they know it!

You're not a regular reader of the Post, are you?

21 posted on 12/14/2002 11:20:36 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: dogbyte12
Lott genuinely needs to explain how he feels. What happened in the 60's when he was leading his frat against integration. How did he feel when the civil rights workers were murdered. How his position evolved. What made them evolve. I think the country would be very forgiving, if Trent Lott truly has repented, and he opens up his heart.

Yeah, I guess you're right. That half-hour of piteous groveling yesterday, which included remaining stoic while one of Sharpton's goons heckled and peppered him with "When did you stop beating your wife"-type questions, AND his promise to submit himself to a full hour of hostility on BET, still isn't quite enough contrition and self-degradation.

Friend, I think I'm speaking for Lott if he was free to let his true feelings fly: KISS MY SOUTHERN ASS!!!

22 posted on 12/14/2002 11:22:01 AM PST by winin2000
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To: Peach
Thank you! Thank you! I have taken your post and sent it to all I know - as you say whether you like Lott or not, this hypocrisy from the left is just this side of being libelous! Enough for heaven's sake.
23 posted on 12/14/2002 11:23:16 AM PST by yoe
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To: John Lenin
I heard Sharpton on Fox! No doubt hillary will destroy Sharpton when the time is right. For now, he serves her purposes. The Republican Senators need to have a talk with Lott and tell him he needs to go as Majority Leader. There is no other way out of this. His apology yesterday shows that he still does not fully comprehend what is going on here. I would guess that some senators are asking to speak with President Bush behind the scenes. What he will say, I don't know. I can speak for nobody but myself and I say he needs to go. He did this to himself, IMO. I was very proud of the statement that President Bush made on Lott the other day. Very proud.
24 posted on 12/14/2002 11:24:30 AM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: dogbyte12
This is unconvincing to me. Lott stays, pimples and all.
25 posted on 12/14/2002 11:25:52 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Peach
> The Post has it wrong. The moral hypocrisy of the Left is moving this forward

Agree. Lott should go, but not for this ridiculous inanity. In this case, he is merely guilty of loose, unwise words. The real issue is his lack of leadership, especially in caving during the impeachment.
26 posted on 12/14/2002 11:25:59 AM PST by Paul_B
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To: yoe
You're welcome and thank you for your kind comments! We have to spread the word, because too many people only hear one side and don't understand just how biased the press is.
27 posted on 12/14/2002 11:26:03 AM PST by Peach
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To: Grut
Lott should have been gone long ago; but only for being so concilliatory toward democrats in the first place! He typifies my idea of a slippery, slimey, self-absorbed politician! If he really meant, what everybody seems to have inferred from his statements; he's doubly duplicitous and obsequious in apologising for having said them! I belive a man should say what he means and mean what he says. While segrgationist views may be unpopular in this Country today, they're not unlawful, or are they? Or, are the P.C. Police justifiably pursuing this man?
28 posted on 12/14/2002 11:26:12 AM PST by old school
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To: NYCVirago
Yikes!! I was thinking of the Times...even so Lott should not be railroaded in to resigning over this silly trumped spin from the left!
29 posted on 12/14/2002 11:27:12 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe
> The New York Post Championed the likes of Bill Clinton for TEN long years from the time he was the sex driven governor of Arkansas! They held up the leader of this nation as a misunderstood “boyish” fellow. That rag has no creditability left and they know it!

You've got that dead wrong.
30 posted on 12/14/2002 11:28:28 AM PST by Paul_B
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To: rightswarrior
This is about TL being a spineless leader LONG before this stuff happened.

Geez Louise, you still don't get it, do you? Trent Lott is not being asked to resign for poor leadership; he is being asked to resign solely because of who he is!

Would you people quit nursing old grudges and think clearly here? We are more than an agenda, we're a people. And that, in this case, is being truer to "conservatism."

31 posted on 12/14/2002 11:29:24 AM PST by winin2000
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To: alnick
Yes, the 'rats are piling on and their motives are not pure.

Actually, the smart ones -- Daschle, Hillary, the NYT -- aren't piling on. They know that the chances are that Lott can blackmail the GOP out of showing him the door. And they know that would be God's gift to the Democrats, long term. Gotta learn to think long range, think strategically. Dubya does. Hitlery does. But we have quite a few people around here who think emotions are tools of cognition. They aren't. Look at the fundamentals. Think 2004, think 2008. Think about the future of the country. How is saving Trent Lott from his own stupidity good for the future of the country? I know, I know: what more harm can he do? That's what they said about Clinton, and look how that turned out.

32 posted on 12/14/2002 11:34:31 AM PST by The Great Satan
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To: winin2000
Your wrong, I DO get it. I dont care WHY!!!! I just care that he leaves, We get almost as much of a Liberal agenda forged ahead with Lott as we did with Dashle!!! Who cares why he goes just as long as he GOES!!!! GOOD RIDDANCE!!
33 posted on 12/14/2002 11:35:55 AM PST by rightswarrior
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To: The Great Satan
The dems aren't piling on as they could. you are absolutely correct. Landrieu just won Louisiana, the dems picked up the house seat there as well. Daschle had an issue to run with on Lott now, and he punted. He said Lott is a wonderful guy, I love him, yada yada yada.

Hillary has shut up. Bill Clinton has stayed quiet. I think the democrats want this to peter out. They actually themselves will stop bringing it up... until summer 2004. Every urban radio station then will get ads about Lott. The vote total will rise. The othe group to be targeted will be the Oprah watching soccer moms. They will hold the balance in 2004. Convince enough of them that Trent Lott=Icky... Voting republican = Voting for Trent Lott, and the dems will pick up the Senate at a minimum and darn near the house.

34 posted on 12/14/2002 11:41:20 AM PST by dogbyte12
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To: dogbyte12
I wrote a better speech for Lott after yesterday's cheerful little PR announcement about how Lott will go on black cable and pander away in an overcompensation attempt.

Here's how my dream Lott speech would have gone:

"I grew up in a different age. I took my early opinions from the people around me, my parents, my schoolteachers, etc., whom I had no reason as a youth not to respect as my elders. Even in college [re the effort to keep blacks out of his frat] I had not yet become enlightened to the true nature of man and equality.

"Thank goodness I have long changed my youthful views, and I have worked consistently in public service to try and make America better for all people. (Bla bla..)

"However, I feel that my comments, as thoughtless as they were, may have embarrassed my President, my fellow Senators and Congressmen and women, and my party. Therefore, not to allow my party to ever have to hear from their detractors that we are a party who tolerates even slightly bigoted views, I heretofore call for a new vote among Senate Republicans for Majority Leader. I beg forgiveness from the President, from my colleagues, and most of all from the American people, whom I respect deeply and whom I am so sorry to have wronged. Bless you all."

He may not have had the leadership but he would have been respected deeply as a man who had a pair and who had grown in life.

35 posted on 12/14/2002 11:48:40 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: The Great Satan
Lott will weather this storm. This is all about stealing an election over stupidity IMHO. And the pubbies are being led by nose over what should be a non-issue.

I've been trying to avoid these discussion thread because I thought Lott's stupid statement warranted little public play. I guess I was wrong, but for Lott to go now would be the worst thing in the world. The CBC thought police will have a field day and will look for their next victim....of course, it won't be KKKByrd.
36 posted on 12/14/2002 11:49:19 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: ex-Texan
I do not think it benefits GWB or the Republican Party to allow Lott to issue blackmail declarations and threats to resign from the Senate rather than give up Leadership. If GWB caves in, it sends the wrong message to the American people.

I agree. It says that we can't win on our ideas and merits. We need to cower behind a weak leader to hang on to a shred of power. WE ARE BETTER THAN THAT. We will get the Senate back the RIGHT way, people!!

37 posted on 12/14/2002 11:50:26 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Peach
This whole "scandal" has the signs of an all night bull session at the DNC headquarters with James Carville presiding: "What do we do now after the November defeat to regain the upper hand, to energize our base, to put the Mean-Spirited Party on defensive, so that even with the majorities in Congress, it is unable implement its agenda?"

No, it's not the hypocrisy of the Liberals that's at work here. This is something new: scrutinizing trite words that are usually allowed to go with the wind after being spoken at birthday parties and other such occasions. A thousand worse things have been said somewhere by politicians since Lott remarks happened. It's a manufactured scandal from the getgo, I maintain. There is really nothing to see here, never was, and I refuse to allow the media and the Left's propagandists to dictate my priorities and concerns.

Far worse things were said by the New Jersey poet laureate one LeRoi Jones and he won't resign either! Far worse and far more consequential, because they are in a "poem" (really an agitprop piece) that is being reprinted and is being taught to our children!

Like the Bolsheviks in 1917 the American Left has little support in the society. But like the Bolsheviks, they Left has mastered the machineries of power, so that it can flex its muscle, dictate policies, cultural trends, contents of national debates. The best thing for the opposing side including Senator Lott to have done would have been to dismiss and ridicule the stage acted outrage and expose the scandal manufacturing process itself! Instead, we consent to act in an absurdist play that is being directed by the extreme Left with the outcome pretty much controlled by it!

38 posted on 12/14/2002 11:52:45 AM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: winin2000
If Lott is unfit for the U.S. Senate, so is about two thirds of the white South. We are basically being told that any Southern white who doesn't spend the rest of his life agonizing over the sins of ages ago and hating himself over perfectly normal instincts, does not deserve representation in government.

Nonsense. Some of our best conservatives, morally and politically, come from the South. We as Republicans LOVE the South, of any color. You just can't open up your mouth, especially if you are in a position of leadership, especially in front of a MIKE ON TV, and say the kinds of things Lott said. No one can blame someone for the era in which he grew up. That's nonsense. It's what he does with his past TODAY that's important.

39 posted on 12/14/2002 11:54:13 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: rightswarrior
Who cares why he goes just as long as he GOES!!!!

That's what I was fishing for: your concession that you don't care a whit about doing what's right. It's all political expedience.

You may think bowing to the bellowings of that noxious, pompadoured walrus whose anti-Semitism rivals Mein Kampf and sacrificing one of our own on bogus charges of "racism" is okay, so long as you it gets you ANWR drilling and a tax cut. I don't.

40 posted on 12/14/2002 12:04:08 PM PST by winin2000
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