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What's Happening to the Climate of the Arctic?
CO2 Science Magazine ^
| 11 December 2002
| Sherwood, Keith and Craig Idso
Posted on 12/13/2002 2:44:49 AM PST by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: mc5cents
They do, don't they? Thanks. :S
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posted on
02/01/2007 5:16:06 AM PST
by
aliquis
To: PeaceBeWithYou
>This is potentially the biggest story of the decade.
>The pinheads are all wrong. All the Europeans who
>love to hate America have quiche all over their
>faces. This could change the course of economic
>development world-wide, and the prosperity and
>living standards of the entire world. AND YET
>WHERE IS THE MEDIA? Rush Limbaugh, even?
>
Good work. But I have been calling the bluff of the global warming bandwagon since it was the global cooling bandwagon in the Seventies.
Global warming will be the biggest hoax of the 20thC/21stC, but the problem will be it is no longer anything to do with science because global warming is now a political Act of Faith, like the guilt of capitalists in the propagation of social injustice.
This means that as 'people' realize that global warming cannot be proven (cannot be dis-proven because the science does not extend that far at the moment) then anti-global warming will be categorized as anti-Eco-Marxist propaganda.
Eco-Marxists, methodologically will retreat into conspiracy-theory type proof arrangements "You cannot disprove that Elvis did not murder JFK".
Presently this is overlain with Millenarianism "repent before it is too late". Not proven ? Repent anyway !
Remember to distinguish between
(a) Questions of fact: The temperature of the earth in the past
(b) Hypotheses: Models of the climate
(c) Propaganda - communications whose objective is to reach a political goal, without regard to content or the basis of any statement in fact.
With regard to (a): The climate has always been changing. You can expect more of the same. I regard waking up to find a couple of million tons of ice sheet on my doorstep pretty big change in climate. There have been several of these events before anatomically modern humans arrived so we can safely expect more of them. If there had been Eco-Marxists during on of the ice ages then they would have been bleating about imminent global warming and the need to stop whatever they imagined was propagating social-injustice. Riding mammoths to work or whatever.
(b) 'Models' of climate change. Can't be done at the moment. We are OK at modelling low-noise linear events such as objects hurtling across galaxies but high-noise non-linear events, ie the 95% of just about everything else is guesswork. Modelling monetary flows in economics would be a lot easier and we have trouble doing that and a lot of other things. So when you hear of the latest 'model', ignore it.
The advantage which class (c) propagandists have in capturing the public imagination is a overlay of (a) historical facts and (b) climate models of the future.
The climate may be doing a lot of things. This is business as usual. Figuring out why is a game for any number of players. Do not be shy: Do not be put off by imagining you need qualifications or experience. Make up your own model then shout loudly about it. There is no such thing as peer-review as in regular science, with subsequent exposure as a fraud/buffoon. You can never be exposed as having no better guess than anyone else in a bar-room.
You can follow the shoot-down of every new piece of Eco-Marxist propaganda here:
www.junkscience.com
--
"Predictions, particularly about the future, are not easy" - Niels Bohr
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posted on
02/01/2007 5:33:37 AM PST
by
PzGr43
To: PeaceBeWithYou
I was hoping we could grow corn there.
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posted on
02/01/2007 5:45:53 AM PST
by
JZelle
To: Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks
this topic is from 2002, and the following one is from 2003. Archival interest.
A Danish Galileo
The American Prowler | Friday, January 17, 2003 | By Steven Martinovich
Posted on 01/17/2003 2:16:06 AM PST by JohnHuang2
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/824283/posts
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posted on
11/29/2008 9:16:09 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
To: SunkenCiv; Desdemona; rdl6989; Little Bill; IrishCatholic; Normandy; Delacon; ...
To: steelyourfaith
So why have the world's best climate models erred so egregiously in this most common of their predictions?Because it's all nonsense maybe? The weatherman said the word snow for the first time tonight. I just pray this winter isn't as bad as last year!
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11/29/2008 11:36:59 PM PST
by
rdl6989
To: rdl6989
Because it's all nonsense maybe? The old GI/GO computer nonsense. Oh, yeah.
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