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To: Pyrion
Uhm, release of source code for an application is not necessary under the GNU. The LINUX OS is free under GNU, but applications that run under LINUX need not provide source code as I've understood the conversation.

Codeweavers does not release the source code for their enhanced WINE development products (Crossover Office, developed for $$) though they do release WINE itself (developed under a separate GNU) , and NetTraverse does not release the source code Win4Lin ($$), and NVidia doesn't even release the source code for their X video drivers (to protect trade secrets).

Penguin People - please correct me if I'm wrong.

21 posted on 12/11/2002 5:31:18 AM PST by PokeyJoe
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To: PokeyJoe
You're right. Oracle will happily sell you their database running on linux, but don't expect to see the source code.

All these META guys are saying, and it makes some sense, is that if linux in fact achieves something like 50% market share on servers, Microsoft would be foolish to ignore that as a market for things like Exchange and SQL Server. They're right. It's probably one of those things, though, that Microsoft will deny right up until the day they announce it's ready to ship.

This business of trying to Dominate Ze Vorld by tying all your products together in unique and wonderful ways has its place as a marketing strategy, but as IBM learned the hard way many years ago, the bigger you get the harder it becomes to keep it going.

A big part of the "IBM renaissance" under Gerstner was losing that idea and moving to a strategy of having point products that were excellent at what they did, and could stand on their own in any environment. You want NT? They'll sell you NT. You want linux? They'll sell you linux. The OS/390 guys can squawk all they want; the WebSphere and DB/2 guys do not have to cripple their own products in order to make OS/390 look good. I think Microsoft will have as hard a time with this transition as IBM did... it is a tough thing to implement in a big-company culture. But sooner or later, they're going to have to learn how.

25 posted on 12/11/2002 6:02:00 AM PST by Nick Danger
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To: PokeyJoe
>> Uhm, release of source code for an application is not necessary under the GNU. The LINUX OS is free under GNU, but applications that run under LINUX need not provide source code as I've understood the conversation.

Correct. You can do anything you want with 'your' software. This applys as long as it does not involve modifed open source software. So something like ms sql server would be fine if sold in penguin versions. Oracle does this today.

snooker
Penguins are forever. M$ is just a fading fad.
34 posted on 12/11/2002 7:52:42 AM PST by snooker
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