Posted on 12/10/2002 10:40:17 AM PST by Helms
Oh you mean Jack's older brother.
So is an open empty container of alcohol OR any thing that might contain Alcohol. (cough syrup)
Because you can go and find some arcane, out of context laws, does not demean the validy of my point.
The thwarting of a law no matter how valid it may or may not be is in itself irresponsible...that's the point!
I can not remember what state this was in, but a few years back a state passed a law outlawing open containers of alcohol, even if empty in automobiles. A problem came up with the law because the state also had a bottle/can deposit and thus, people were breaking the open container law when they returned the cans for their deposit.
You would think that the politicians would have been smart enough to take this into consideration when writing the law. But then again, were talking about politicians.
Thats not what the law said. And you know it. Your super stretch is signs that you know you have been proven wrong.
How? Are you so sure you know the law?
Look, if you choose to ignor my central point then that is your progative, but do not patronize and trivialize what theme we are exploring. Most laws are established to protect us. If you PURPOSLY break a law you are by definition ignoring and irresponsibly condensending a state of affair.
This is a purely selfish act!
I am not advocating NOT standing up for what you believe, or trying to say DO NOT to change ridiculous laws.
I never implied laws are "good, caring, moral, and beneficial to society."
I said breaking the laws are bad, selfish, and uncaring.
"We feel bad for any students who are going to receive disciplinary action for the things they did behind closed doors in the privacy of their own rooms," she said. "They are adults and they've made adult decisions. It's not the university's responsibility to monitor what goes on in the private lives of students."
Specious reasoning at best, and probably factually incorrect in every respect:
"Public land"? True but irrelevant. State parks and government office buildings aren't restriction-free zones, for example.
"invited by students"? It's really the University's room -- the student is just a renter. Again, to say that the university has no right to deny unrestricted access to their own buildings is simply false.
"not the university's responsibility"? We all know how quickly a University would be named as a defendant in a civil trial if a student is raped in her dorm room, falls off a balcony, etc.
I look at this as a question of what a property owner allows on his property. The fact that it's the state rather than in individual is irrevalant IMO.
I had writen a superlative response to this, but my puter locked up and I lost it...Here is the gist of what I wrote you....
All the things can cause accidents that are in themselve selfish acts by merely ignoring the law? What if someone gets killed because of an asinine Jaywalker...I have known for it to have happened three times!
How many times do you hear of someone speeding, losing control of their vehicle and plowing into the mother with the newborn killing her and the baby....
Do you see my point?
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No pun intended of course.....
I realize what you are trying to imply, however we can not have anarchy and vigilantism as would be the case.
I do consider Abortion definately an unjust law and one day may fight the murderers of such evil acts, but if I choose to ignor what has been put in place as a free society and hold people against their will to have an abortion I have done just what I have defined as irresponsible.
You must have the accountablity to abide by current law and with the means if necessary, try your best to peaceful change people's hearts.
Well, to all fat ugly guys who have a nine-incher and/or can lick it themselves, yeah...
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