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To: billbears
Under the bureaucratic juggernaut of centralization first forwarded successfully by the northern butcher at whose feet you worship.

I suppose you mean President Lincoln. I don't worship at his feet.

But care to expound on the reasons he might be called a "butcher"?

Walt

34 posted on 12/10/2002 10:56:25 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa
I suppose you mean President Lincoln. I don't worship at his feet.

Your actions indicate otherwise, Walt.

In the meantime on this question of the union and its nature, I'll happily yield to Alexis de Tocqueville:

"If the Union were to undertake to enforce by arms the allegiance of the federated states, it would be in a position very analogous to that of England at the time of the War of Independence.

However strong a government may be, it cannot easily escape from the consequences of a principle which it has once admitted as the foundation of its constitution. The Union was formed by the voluntary agreement of the states; and these, in uniting together, have not forfeited their sovereignty, nor have they been reduced to the condition of one and the same people. If one of the states chose to withdraw its name from the contract, it would be difficult to disprove its right of doing so, and the Federal government would have no means of maintaining its claims directly, either by force or by right. In order to enable the Federal government easily to conquer the resistance that may be offered to it by any of its subjects, it would be necessary that one or more of them should be specially interested in the existence of the Union, as has frequently been the case in the history of confederations.

If it be supposed that among the states that are united by the federal tie there are some which exclusively enjoy the principal advantages of union, or whose prosperity entirely depends on the duration of that union, it is unquestionable that they will always be ready to support the central government in enforcing the obedience of the others. But the government would then be exerting a force not derived from itself, but from a principle contrary to its nature. States form confederations in order to derive equal advantages from their union; and in the case just alluded to, the Federal government would derive its power from the unequal distribution of those benefits among the states.

If one of the federated states acquires a preponderance sufficiently great to enable it to take exclusive possession of the central authority, it will consider the other states as subject provinces and will cause its own supremacy to be respected under the borrowed name of the sovereignty of the Union. Great things may then be done in the name of the Federal government, but in reality that government will have ceased to exist." - Democracy in America

37 posted on 12/10/2002 11:42:36 AM PST by GOPcapitalist
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