[justshutupandtakeit]

Evidence to the contrary and logic are effective in changing my opinion. Every way I look at it there is no right to secession within the Constitution. Nor any mention of it at the Convention. Every argument I have heard that there is does not meet the legal and historical analysis it must pass to be valid.

I am always happy to discuss this with those who are making good faith arguments. Those who just try and manipulate what I say or ignore facts are not met with much patience.

Most convincing to me is the fact that the Articles of the Confederation called the Union perpetual in half dozen places then the Constitution claimed to be making that perpetual Union MORE perfect. A more perfect Union could not be less than the original perpetual one. It just doesn't make sense otherwise.

[Libertarianize the GOP]

If you desire to refute my original point get back to me otherwise you can continue expressing your opinion but try addressing it to someone who cares.