[joesnuffy]

Ashcroft himself declared that the 2nd Ammend applied to the individual...and was not a "collective" (what a great leftie term) right...

The 1st ammendment does not apply to the collective right to free speech...any more than the second applies to the collective right of firearm ownership

Of course the "Violence Policy Center" is more involved with "violence" against the helpless...disarming rape victims whose attackers are still at large or out of the reach of the law..seems to be one of their goals..

As is the disarming of the most helpless of americans ..the disabled..the elderly..sing moms...knowing full well that the police cannot be held responsible for stopping crime before it happens..the courts have already laid this burden on the individual potential victim..or repeat victim..

Criminals of course will always be armed and pay no attention to laws..(thats what makes them criminals)...the violent and the the theif...the rapist and murderer have bad souls and brutish minds..

The only thing that will stop or deter them is if their victim is armed..as in nature..the animals with claws and fangs the unwilling or difficult victims survive...

The easy ones are called lunch..

[joesnuffy]

The 2nd ammendment does not apply to the collective right to firearms ownership..any more than the 1st applies to the collective right to freedom of speech....