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Here you go, "SJackson," some more "facts" which apparently seem to impress you. Why is it that I suspect MY facts will be dismissed by you far more readily than Dennisw's simple posting of a list of names and numbers?… I wish you fools would just shut yer yaps about Pollard. Coming on the FREE REPUBLIC and defending a villainous traitor to the United States is just outrageous….Go back to defending every killing of a Palestinian child in Gaza by the IDF. You have more credibility in that department.

Howdy, Fool. Good to hear from you.

You don’t deliver the Here you go again a well as RR.

Before spouting off about others being fools, fool, maybe you should read the thread.

I’ll note my posts pertaining to Pollard on this thread below below. Please feel free to read them, though to save you time and eyestrain, I’ll repeat my main points.

*I posted this at the request of one of the local Jihadis who apparently felt he’d used up his Pollard tags this season.

*Life in jail for Pollard works fine for me, as would have been a more severe sentence if imposed at the time.

*His sentence is disproportionate when compared to other similar cases of espionage. There’s no refuting that, but I don’t lose much sleep over it. And if GWB released him, I wouldn’t lose much sleep either.

*The real problem, which of course you nor the Pollard threads ever address, is the lenient sentencing of others convicted of espionage, which continues up to this day.

Feel free to show me why I’d dismiss your cut and paste.

Feel free to show me where I’ve defended Pollard, here or elsewhere.

Feel free to show me where I’ve defended killing children in Gaza or elsewhere.

Till then, outrageous, that applies to the slander you purvey on the thread, fool.

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Posted at the request of Iman RCW2001, who apparently thought a veteran Jew should post this, RCW2001 being a veteran, whatever.

From my perspective, Pollard can rot, I disagree with Theodore Olson on this point, despite the unusual nature of his sentence vs the charge.

The real issue here is the leniant sentences given to others.

1 posted on 12/08/2002 6:27 PM CST by Sjackson

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To: SavePanama

Would not the "Ready, Aim, and Fire" be appropriate?

As long as it's applied equally to Americans who betray their country, yes, it would.

7 posted on 12/08/2002 6:39 PM CST by Sjackson

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To: yonif

I agree with many of these view points. As a sign of good will and friendship between these two great allies, I believe Pollard should be released. He has spent enough time in prison.

I agree, so does Ted Olson.

Of course, if you'd said he should have been shot after his conviction, I might have agreed too.

This is history.

15 posted on 12/08/2002 6:50 PM CST by Sjackson

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To: dennisw

I rarely post to Pollard threads.

I don't either. See comment 1, this was a special call in request on oldies and goodies night from our friend rcw.

You won't learn where the truth lies because thus far the government refuses to release the records, particularly about his plea bargain, to his attorneys. My impression is that most of the info reaching the Soviets came from Ames. One day I hope to see a thread about one of the guys who does the same thing and serves three years, but I'm not holding my breath.

54 posted on 12/08/2002 8:33 PM CST by Sjackson

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http://www.jonathanpollard.org/mustread.htm

http://www.jonathanpollard.org/1994/060094.htm

I am convinced that a full, fair and open review of the facts will lead to the conclusion that the information given to Israel was largely tactical and regional, rather than strategic and global. It related primarily to Iraq’s plans for chemical and gas warfare and to Syrian inspired terrorism directed against civilians. It has no current intelligence value, and there is no reason to keep it classified.

What we are seeing here is yet another abuse of the classification system by the Pentagon to serve political, rather than national security, interests. The entire classification system reeks of arbitrariness. Insiders leak classified information with impunity. I was recently told by a former intelligence official that he had been shown classified information in order to give him ammunition to oppose Pollard’s release.

The government continues to play fast and loose with the facts. In another recent leak, intelligence officials assert that information given to Israel may have inadvertently found its way to the Soviet Union. Yet prosecutor DiGenova asserted during a public debate that he had no information to confirm that rank speculation.

In a democracy, it is unfair for the government to argue against the rights of a citizen by relying on classified information without giving that citizen the right to defend himself against its charges. Accordingly, the only appropriate course for the government to follow now is that suggested by DiGenova: all the material upon which the government is relying in its effort to keep Pollard in jail should now be declassified so the public can determine for itself the actual extent of any damage done by Pollard.

I don't really care about your supposed motives for posting, any more than I care about your facility with HTML.

I'm addressing the COMMENTS you're making, trying to defend Pollard, trying to blend in with the outrageous chorus of his defenders whose argument boils down to "he didn't really do anything that bad," trusting to the "memory hole" to help your case.

It's despicable, IMO, for anyone who CLAIMS to be a supporter of our "Free Republic" to play to these lies.