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To: Man of the Right
People throw the word "traitor" around like chump change. In common use, it means what they say but then they say a traitor should be executed. Why, by the the US Constitution, there is one crime for which the Feds may excute a man, and that is indeed Treason.

US Constitution, Article III, Section 3

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.
Israel is not a enemy. There was no treason. Period.
111 posted on 12/09/2002 11:21:35 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
Israel is not a enemy. There was no treason. Period.

1. The Soviet Union was most CERTAINLY an enemy. 2. That is where the information ended up. 3. It was sold to the Soviets by the Israelis. 4. Israel may not be an enemy, but she is NO FRIEND to the United States.

About the only thing we can expect to get from Israel is absentee ballots voting for hard-socialist Democrats from "dual citizenship" jerk-offs who shouldn't be allowed to vote in the first place.

114 posted on 12/09/2002 1:08:33 PM PST by Illbay
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To: bvw
Israel is not a enemy. There was no treason. Period.

That's why Pollard was tried, convicted and sentenced for espionage.

115 posted on 12/09/2002 1:10:35 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: bvw
Pollack has been found guilty of espionage for a foreign power, in this case Israel. When Pollard joined the government he pledged "to bear true faith and allegiance" to the Constitution. Clearly, he did not. We have a federal law that requires all foreign agents to register. He did not.

Lord Palmerston had it exactly right: A nation has no permanent allies, only permanent interests. Israel and the U.S. have usually acted in concert, but Israel is not a formal treaty ally, and at times our national interests have diverged. In 1967 the Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Dayan personally ordered a combined air-sea attack on the U.S. spy ship Liberty that killed 34 Americans and wounded 171 -- the largest combat loss the Navy has sustained in any WAR since World War II. Israeli apologists claim the attack was accidental, but the premedited nature of the attack has been documented beyond dispute. The NSA monitored Israeli surveillance and recorded Dayan's order. The ship was listed in Jane's which is on board virtually every warship in the world. The ship was flying an enormous American flag. Israeli boats approached within 50' of the Liberty and A-4s buzzed the mast just prior to the attack. In 1969 Israeli SAM missile radar locked on a U.S. Air Force reconnaisance aircraft that was overflying Israeli positions in the Golan. During the first Bush Adminstration, the Israeli Prime Minister Shamir betrayed some of America's most sensitive state secret -- our global nuclear targeting plan -- to the Soviets. Again, this is very well documented.

So while I like and respect the Israelis, my loyalty is to the U.S.










119 posted on 12/09/2002 4:43:26 PM PST by Man of the Right
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