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To: tpaine
BTW, does ANYone know what the "noetic structure of existence" is?

tpaine, that is the very thing that Voegelin is endeavoring to demonstrate in this essay. He can't hand it to you on a silver platter, already "cooked to doneness, and predigested for you." You have to do the work -- please read the essay again, with an open mind (and spirit), carefully and attentively. Work through his penetrating analysis for yourself. Great teacher that he was, I strongly doubt that he would want it any other way.

But to give you a possibly helpful shortcut, look at the classical experiential sources of human existential problems that he adumbrates. These insights are as true now as ever, for the essential conditio humana does not change over time. You can take your clues from there.

18 posted on 12/08/2002 1:43:35 PM PST by betty boop
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To: betty boop
Words have meanings.
Great teachers are capable of using them to illustrate ideas. Voegelin uses them to make his 'ideas' obscure. - Intentionally, imo, because in essence, he has no real insight on 'debate or existence'.

I would challenge anyone to write a paragraph or two that could outline even his main point in that essay. - I doubt one exists.
24 posted on 12/08/2002 2:01:20 PM PST by tpaine
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