[widowithfoursons]

I see nothing in this dialogue that remotely smacks of Cicero. He would hve been appalled to have his name thrown in with Plato and Aristotle. He only (barely) admired Socates. Cicero did not ascribe to any of this. His writings do not reflect it.

[widowithfoursons]

hve=have Socates=Socrates

[cornelis]

In the History of Political Philosophy Voegelin quickly dismisses Cicero. A good assessment of Cicero can be found in Frederick Wilhelmsen's Christianity and Political Philosophy. There you will also find a chapter devoted to Voegelin and his disposition to Platonism.

[betty boop]

Cicero did not ascribe to any of this. His writings do not reflect it.

I do believe that it was Cicero who propounded the term, aspernatio rationalis -- which means "flight from reason," or in more modern terminology, "the refusal to apperceive." He plainly classifies this sort of thing as symptomatic of a spiritual disorder.

Look, I know that Cicero is normally classified as a Stoic. But on what specific basis do you insist that these kinds of insights were foreign to Cicero?