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Jesse Jackson Calls Trent Lott a 'Confederate'on Thurmond Quote, Asks for Senate Resignation
Meet the Press-NBC ^ | Dec. 8, 2002 | Tim Russert

Posted on 12/08/2002 6:49:43 AM PST by ewing

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To: Bubba_Leroy
Which U.S. Senator is a former member of the Ku Klux Klan?

I posted the same message over at DU. Within minutes the post was deleted and my posting rights were revoked.

I must have hit a nerve. ;-)

181 posted on 12/09/2002 6:32:39 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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To: TBP
Loony Murray Rothbard made the same point at the time and was one of the few New Yorkers to support Thurmond, but I don't buy it. What was politically possible in 1948 was far different from what what is possible in today's political climate.

The Republicans were associated with Hoover, Depression, unemployment and reckless isolationism. Roosevelt had been President for 12 years and would have been President for more terms had he not died. Veterans were getting their college paid for and their home loans underwritten by the federal government. There was a fear of a postwar recession and a feeling that government spending could prevent it. Many who lived through the Depression would swear that they would never vote for another Republican ever. Friedrich Hayek's book "The Road to Serfdom" was greeted with abuse and catcalls.

There were real limits as to how conservative (in our current understanding of the word) any candidate could be in 1948. That's as true of Thurmond as of Dewey or Taft.

I don't buy that Thurmond in 1948 was the same as Goldwater or Reagan in later decades. Thurmond was another Democrat with Democrat ideas on business and government who had broken with the party over civil rights issues.

I suppose it's possible that had the Dixiecrats won -- something they themselves probably didn't consider possible -- government would have grown less than it did. Indeed, they opposed everything that would have weakened their position, including the later admission of Alaska and Hawaii as states, so it's not surprising that they would have blocked most new government programs -- not for philosophical reasons, but because they wanted to preserve segregation and weakening the federal government seemed to be the way to do this. There would have been some advantages to such a strategy.

But we would have had other serious problems. It's likely that our history would have been far more turbulent than it turned out to be. And it's also possible that, had civil rights been removed from the table, Thurmond would have been as supportive of government growth as any other Democrat. The Dixiecrats had been more or less loyal Democrats earlier and, but for the emergence of racial issues, they could easily have remained such.

Dewey was the conservative, prudent, and responsible choice that year. Of course he was a New Yorker, and hence, more liberal than most Republicans, but he wasn't really a Rockefeller type. Rockefeller really threw himself enthusiastically into big government liberal Republicanism. Dewey was more pragmatic and adaptable. He had to be more liberal to win in New York and would have been more conservative in the White House.

182 posted on 12/09/2002 7:45:12 PM PST by x
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To: ewing
Edward Kennedy, a Democratic senator from Massachusetts, drove his car off a bridge and killed his passenger, Mary Jo Kopechne. If his name hadn't been Kennedy, he would have gone to prison for manslaughter.

Daniel Inouye, a Democratic senator from Hawaii, reportedly raped a woman.

Joe Biden, a Democratic senator from Delaware, is a plagiarist.

Barney Frank, a Democratic congressman from Massachusetts, had a gay prostitution ring in his basement.

Jim McDermott, a Democratic congressman from Washington state, passed a recording of a phone conversation (that had been made without the participants' knowledge) to a newspaper. One of the participants in the phone conversation was Newt Gingrich. McDermott's action was a felony under state law.

Hillary Clinton, a Democratic senator from New York, reportedly called a Jewish political advisor a "fu**ing Jew ba**ard." Her husband, Bill Clinton, repeatedly referred to the black vote as "the ni**er vote."

Jesse Jackson called Jews "Hymies" and New York City "Hymietown." Louis Farrakhan called Judaism a "gutter religion."

But let's go out and lynch Trent Lott.
183 posted on 12/11/2002 12:59:43 AM PST by CenterRight
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