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Democrat Hawk Whose Ghost Guides Bush (Scoop Jackson)
The Guardian ^
| 12-06-2002
| Julian Borger
Posted on 12/06/2002 4:42:56 PM PST by blam
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I remember Scoop. (Scoop was a Democrat before they all became anti-American)
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posted on
12/06/2002 4:42:56 PM PST
by
blam
To: blam
Jackson was one of the last of the Democrat Party giants, back when the term could be used as a positive. Maria dot.bomb Cantwell sits in Scoop's seat now, what a tragedy.
To: blam
I wish I, like Scoop Jackson, didn't know who Robert Redford is. LOL!
To: blam; JohnHuang2
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posted on
12/06/2002 5:02:49 PM PST
by
blam
To: blam
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posted on
12/06/2002 5:25:37 PM PST
by
Hipixs
To: fieldmarshaldj
I have to disagree with you in your assessment of Maria Cantwell.
A decade ago I had dealings with Cantwell when she represented the 32nd District in the Washington State House of Representatives. I found her to be practical and non-ideological. In short, she was the kind of Democrat I could do business with.
When she was elected to the US Senate, I fully expected her to toe the party line at first in order to follow Sam Rayburn's dictum that "You have to go along to get along." But I also expected her to follow Jackson's path when the party did something she could not in good conscience go along with.
And she did.
She broke with Patty Murray and Jim McDermott and joined Jackson protege Norm Dicks to vote for war with Iraq. Cantwell will surprise a lot of people over the next few years.
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posted on
12/06/2002 5:35:15 PM PST
by
Publius
To: Publius
"I have to disagree with you in your assessment of Maria Cantwell. A decade ago I had dealings with Cantwell when she represented the 32nd District in the Washington State House of Representatives. I found her to be practical and non-ideological. In short, she was the kind of Democrat I could do business with."
Non-ideological ? She's had a uniformally leftist record, both during her tenure in the House and so far in the Senate, I don't consider that either practical or particularly acceptable by any stretch.
"When she was elected to the US Senate, I fully expected her to toe the party line at first in order to follow Sam Rayburn's dictum that "You have to go along to get along." But I also expected her to follow Jackson's path when the party did something she could not in good conscience go along with. And she did. She broke with Patty Murray and Jim McDermott and joined Jackson protege Norm Dicks to vote for war with Iraq. Cantwell will surprise a lot of people over the next few years."
In a phrase, "So what ?" Voting right every once in a blue moon does not make one right (as they say about the broken clock). As far as Miss Cantwell has demonstrated, if you have enough money, you can buy yourself any political office you like, even if the money doesn't really exist. The state lost a giant with her defeat of Slade Gorton, and has lost considerable relevance as a result with the likes of her, Murray, and Baghdad Jim. No one outside the Black Hole of Puget Sound considers her anywhere near Senate material, and I certainly hope that the GOP is actively working for her defeat and replacement with someone more befitting the office with the stature of Gorton or Jackson.
To: Thud
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posted on
12/06/2002 5:53:03 PM PST
by
Dark Wing
To: fieldmarshaldj; Publius
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posted on
12/06/2002 6:45:15 PM PST
by
Azzurri
To: Azzurri
Quack quack quack.
To: blam
So true. Give a Hurahh for Scoop Jackson and for a time when patriots ruled both political parties.
To: xkaydet65
I remember Scoop Jackson. I got to shake his hand once at a political dinner circa 1975. He was a gracious man.
Jackson was a strong supporter of Israel, at a time when Israel needed friends, and I respect him for that.
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posted on
12/06/2002 8:52:26 PM PST
by
Ciexyz
To: blam
Paul Wolfowitz and Doug Feith, the two leading strategists at the defence department, and Richard Perle, an unusual but influential Pentagon adviser, are all former Democrats who worked for Jackson in the 70s, and looked on him as their mentor. I will look on with amusement as GOP faithful ignore the reality. Their President is a democrat with an R next to his name and is taking advice from democrats.
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posted on
12/06/2002 9:07:40 PM PST
by
Demidog
To: Demidog
Shhhhhh....
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posted on
12/06/2002 9:14:38 PM PST
by
RCW2001
To: RCW2001
Shhhhhh.... Sorry! I am pleased to see that not everyone is asleep though I will try and be more quite. (quietly sneaking off)....
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posted on
12/06/2002 9:22:01 PM PST
by
Demidog
To: Demidog
The Democrat party left a lot of good people.
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posted on
12/06/2002 9:24:32 PM PST
by
blam
To: Demidog
;)
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posted on
12/06/2002 9:28:45 PM PST
by
RCW2001
To: blam
The Democrat party left a lot of good people. Yeah...sure. Like FDR perhaps.
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posted on
12/06/2002 9:31:07 PM PST
by
Demidog
To: Demidog
I used to be a Democrat too. Scoop Jackson is one of my heroes. Its shame the party of my youth is so different from it used to be. I didn't stop being a Democrat; the party left us normal Americans behind. Just ask Ronald Reagan, Charlton Heston and millions of former Democrats why they could no longer remain with their party. We're all Americans first and Republicans second. Somehow I know that wherever he is, Scoop's approving what we're doing to protect our country and in advancing the cause of peace and freedom abroad.
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