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Mormon, GOP Link Doomed Democrats (in 2002 elections)
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 12/6/2002 | DAN HARRIE

Posted on 12/06/2002 11:41:01 AM PST by Utah Girl

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Unfortunately for the Democrats, the LDS church pronouncement that it was OK to be a Mormon and a Democrate was really bad timing. The Clinton impeachment and sex scandal were at fever pitch, and many of us said no thanks to the Democrat party. And quite honestly, until the Democrats condemn abortion, gay marriage, etc, I will happily remain a conservative.
1 posted on 12/06/2002 11:41:01 AM PST by Utah Girl
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2 posted on 12/06/2002 11:51:08 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Utah Girl
I have difficulty remembering back all those years, but I seem to remember that the Rats had a chance, 50/50 in Utah. It seems that outside of Salt Lake the Rat party is Dead?
3 posted on 12/06/2002 11:53:18 AM PST by Little Bill
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To: Utah Girl
I hope you all can oust that one 'Rat in 04.
4 posted on 12/06/2002 11:54:49 AM PST by Guillermo
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To: Utah Girl
"They're voting for the Republican Party as the church,"

How does that explain the rest of the country's Republicans? I'll take a wild guess that most of the Republicans outside of Utah are not Mormons. Since this article is specifically about Utah/Mormons, itsn't it nice that the dems don't type-cast. (profiling?)

5 posted on 12/06/2002 11:57:40 AM PST by zlala
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To: Utah Girl
Why this should be suprising to anyone is beyond me. The Democratic party nation wide is so left that anyone with a prolife position or religious values is hard pressed to find anyone to vote for. Of course, the picture of the national dems will spill over into Utah. The shift to increasing numbers for the Republicans shouldn't be a shock either. Knowing this the dems still argue about whether they should go further left even after the last election. Cheers to Nancy Pelosi and all the enemies of America!! You continue to educate the public to the dangers of socialism. Keep up the good work!!
6 posted on 12/06/2002 12:02:30 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: Utah Girl
I thought I saw a post relatively recently about the one Republican who lost the governship of Arizona attributed in part to his opponent's calling attention to the fact that he was a Mormon. Didn't the Rats in MA try the same gambit against Romney a few years ago when they beat him for the Senate?

So, outside of Utah, is one's affiliation with the Church of JC of LDS a net plus or minus, or a wash? Speaking only for me, I try not to allow religious prejudice to enter the political calculation as to who the best candidate might be. Positions on issues and personal integrity are better factors to consider, IMO.

7 posted on 12/06/2002 12:03:06 PM PST by chimera
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Question: what percentage of non-SLC voters vote Democrat?
8 posted on 12/06/2002 12:03:28 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Utah Girl
Here are the pictures of Bush & Clinton looking through binoculars with lens covers.
9 posted on 12/06/2002 12:04:03 PM PST by Maceman
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Clinton impeachment and sex scandal were at fever pitch, and many of us said no thanks to the Democrat party.

Clinton legacy.

I am not a Mormon but I know a few, and my bet is that the shift really started to accelerate right around the time when Billy boy was dodging the fallout from his lies about the Monica BJ.

10 posted on 12/06/2002 12:13:01 PM PST by Tom Bombadil
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Democrat #1: Do you think the fact that the Democrats poll badly with people of faith is that we support anti-religious groups like People for the American Way and Naral; are pro-abortion; support the ban of prayer in schools; support the "marriage penalty;" oppose school vouchers; and say "fundamentalists" cause terror?

Democrat #2: Nah, it's bacause the media are all Republicans and we "didn't get our message out." We just need to be more liberal.

Democrat #1: Guess you're right; pass the Pinot Grigio, will you?

11 posted on 12/06/2002 12:16:54 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Maceman
Uh... thanks? Were those doctored in Utah or something?
12 posted on 12/06/2002 12:20:43 PM PST by William McKinley
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After having lived in the San Francisco Bay area for 35 years as a conservative, I found it extremely interesting to move to Salt Lake City and discover the pseudo liberals here that are that in name only. In reality most are quite conservative as compared to the folks in Northern Kalifornia. Mainly it seems most of the liberal wannabes are trying to make a statement against the church which is quite silly. There is a type of persecution complex based only on we're not one of them that pervades this society.
A wonderful place if I could just import a couple of my favorite watering holes with sophisticated bartenders.
13 posted on 12/06/2002 1:01:45 PM PST by Utah Binger
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14 posted on 12/06/2002 1:06:40 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Utah Girl
"Democrat Dave Thomas, a Mormon bishop"

Now that's an OXYMORMON !

15 posted on 12/06/2002 1:29:30 PM PST by SENTINEL
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I can't think of anything more hypocritical than Mormons and the Mormon Church advocating that government refuse to recognize marriages that don't happen to conform to Mormon beliefs.

First, there's the well-known historical assault on the Constitution, wherein the federal government sent troops into Utah to force the Mormons to stop practicing the polygamy component that was part of their religion at that time. And long before polygamy was introduced to Mormonism, Ohio government officials refused to recognize monogamous marriages performed by Mormon clergy as valid, on the grounds that the clergy were not members of a "legitimate" religion.

Now the Mormon Church is pouring huge resources into lobbying various government entities to refuse to recognize marriages which the Mormon Church doesn't regard as "legitimate". Think about it (and think about why the government should be in the business of registering and recognizing intimate personal relationships at all).
16 posted on 12/06/2002 1:33:34 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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Mormons I have known are moral, conservative, family-oriented people. I don't happen to agree with their religious beliefs, but they seem to produce good results as far as moral character and good citizenship are concerned.

Mormonism can't be identified with a political party any more than Christianity can, because you never can be sure what a political party will do next. But as far as present-day politics are concerned, it's hard to see how anyone who believes in traditional moral values could vote for the Democrats. They belong to the culture of death and perversion.
17 posted on 12/06/2002 1:52:36 PM PST by Cicero
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Now the Mormon Church is pouring huge resources into lobbying various government entities to refuse to recognize marriages which the Mormon Church doesn't regard as "legitimate".

C'mon, why hide it? Aren't those horrible awful Mormons actually simply opposing gay "marriage" ?

18 posted on 12/06/2002 2:23:17 PM PST by jimt
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To: Utah Girl
BUMPeroo!
19 posted on 12/06/2002 2:25:22 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: Utah Girl
Seventy-five percent of Utah voters in the Nov. 5 election were members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and an overwhelming majority of them voted for Republicans, according to new exit-poll results.

I wish Catholics would follow suit.

20 posted on 12/06/2002 2:26:55 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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