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Planning's poster child grows up
High Country News ^ | FEATURE ARTICLE, November 25, 2002 | Rebecca Clarren

Posted on 12/05/2002 12:20:47 AM PST by Fish out of Water

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1 posted on 12/05/2002 12:20:47 AM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: madfly; Carry_Okie; Grampa Dave; farmfriend; editor-surveyor
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2 posted on 12/05/2002 12:22:57 AM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: Fish out of Water
Smart Growth - Another one of Al Gores dreams has picked up steam around the country and become the new religion of the PC crowd. You aren't smart enough to know what to do with your property - we will tell you. We are going to herd you back into the city whether you like it or not - we know best! It's all about power and control.
3 posted on 12/05/2002 4:07:32 AM PST by OBone
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To: OBone
Welcome to Free republic! I couldn't have said it better myself! Are you a member of the Klamath Bucket Brigade?
4 posted on 12/05/2002 5:01:12 AM PST by Issaquahking
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To: Fish out of Water
HCN always does a good job of presenting all sides of an issue.

American Dream Boundries: Urban Containment and Its Consequences provides a detailed comparative analysis of Portland and Atlanta(sprawl)

5 posted on 12/05/2002 5:05:59 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Fish out of Water
By clustering development along the train line, city planners say they reduce the need for cars, cutting road infrastructure costs and pollution.

Let's see, cram people into rented boxes near public transportation. Removes property ownership AND the ability to leave since no one 'needs' cars.

Can you say "rural cleansing"? I knew you could.

It's time for all good people to abandon the left coast to the liberals. Don't work for them, don't trade with them, don't give to them. Leave them totally on their own. Don't lose heart though, in 20 years they'll beg the adults to come back in and clean up the mess. From what I see this process is already happening as business chooses to relocate out of there or not locate there in the first place.

God Save America (Please)

6 posted on 12/05/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by John O
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To: Fish out of Water
Just as centralized economic planning has been proved to be an utter failure, so will centralized land use planning. But that will certainly not deter the do-gooder know-it-alls who compulsively impose their personal vision on the rest of us.

The arrogance of some people is astounding.

7 posted on 12/05/2002 5:17:39 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Fish out of Water
He says it's frustrating that the land-use rules won't allow him to build a home on his parent's orchard.

Hmm. Wonder if he could build a home underground and get around regulations...

Tom Wolfe's book "from Bauhaus to our house" lambasts the socialism behind such urban planners.

8 posted on 12/05/2002 5:37:55 AM PST by LadyDoc
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To: *Enviralists; *landgrab
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9 posted on 12/05/2002 7:06:38 AM PST by Free the USA
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To: OBone
Welcome and many of us agree with you.

Controlled growth is just a nice phrase to disguise the brutal Facism Reality of the Watermelon Green Jihadists in Oregon and across America as they practice rural cleansing.

They have been so successful that Oregon's economy is beyond recession, it is in a depression and was catgorized as being in a depression early this year.

Years ago before I retired, a friend suggest this area as a retirement potential. In less than a few hours on a trip we realized that this area was like Berkley North, controlled by hostile lesbians, enviralists and extreme left wing whackos more interested in a bicycle trail than allowing good homes to be built where a property owner wanted to build them.

We said no thank you and went to the SW coast of Oregon to vacation among conservatives. I felt like I needed to shower immediately on arrrival in Gold Beach to cleanse the enviral scum off me that had deposited itself in a few hours.
10 posted on 12/05/2002 7:24:03 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Fish out of Water; 1Old Pro; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; a_federalist; abner; aculeus; alaskanfan; ...
Water mellon tyranny ping!
11 posted on 12/05/2002 8:48:02 AM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: John O
Can you say "rural cleansing"?

There is an antidote to this socially and environmentally destructive pattern.

12 posted on 12/05/2002 9:12:46 AM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: editor-surveyor
BTTT!!!!!
13 posted on 12/05/2002 9:12:52 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: LadyDoc
Good reference. I will have to read it.
14 posted on 12/05/2002 9:38:22 AM PST by sauropod
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To: Fish out of Water
Planning is popular with people who live in dense urban areas. That way, they get to see greenery when they go out into the countryside a couple of times a month. Of course, the cost is the value locked up in lands, and farm families imprisoned to those lesser values.

To the urban planner, those people are throwaways.

While consideration of the cost of infrastructure supply and upgrades and the effect on watersheds have been neglected in the past, moratoriums aren't good either. Everybody needs consideration in this process - not just the concerns of the urban whiners.

15 posted on 12/05/2002 9:44:56 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: editor-surveyor
Property Rights...Bump!

Stop the attacks on our Freedoms by the wacko, extreme left-wing, lunatic fringe, dirt worshipping Green Jihadist, enviro-nazis terrorist's and their toadies in the media!

Protect The Forest...Eradicate The Greenies!

Fighting Irresponsible Radical Environmentalism!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For!

Let's Roll!

Molon Labe!
16 posted on 12/05/2002 9:56:12 AM PST by blackie
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Brostoff, 28, moved to Portland five years ago, and is about to complete a master's degree in urban planning at Portland State University. Living here, amid a throng of planners, is "like being a computer programmer in Silicon Valley - it's great," he says, standing before a sculpture at the Oregon Zoo - a product of a regulation that requires developers to spend 1 percent of building costs on public art projects. "The program is working remarkably well," he says. "The only problem with the program is that it could be better enforced."

LOFL!!
Man, thank God there's a place like Oregon for scumbags like this Brostoff to go play with himself.

17 posted on 12/05/2002 10:21:49 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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re: your post #10
Excellent post.
18 posted on 12/05/2002 10:24:36 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Thanks. Maybe with luck all of the enviral planning facists will move to Portland to near the other enviral fascists living in Portlant.
19 posted on 12/05/2002 10:30:25 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Fish out of Water
Sorry, I'm a property owner now myself. And this is crap. I'm sure some will look at it as a "welcome to ownership" salute of some kind. But in my mind, this is one of the many places where we the people should be telling the gvt. what to go do with itself and in a hurry.
20 posted on 12/05/2002 10:32:32 AM PST by Havoc
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