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World body not turned off by arms inspector's S&M
New York Daily News ^ | 11/29/02 | DEREK ROSE

Posted on 11/29/2002 1:41:13 AM PST by kattracks

Harvey John (Jack) McGeorge is seen on leatheru.com Web site.
UN officials defended hiring the kinky co-founder of an S&M group as an Iraqi weapons inspector - saying his personal life is his own business.

Harvey John (Jack) McGeorge also lacks a specialized university degree - although he was once honored with a "doctor of S&M arts and letters" from "Leather University."

McGeorge, who comes from Woodbridge, Va., is in New York waiting to be sent to Iraq as a munitions analyst.

"He is someone who has expertise in warheads and munitions, and that's what's important," said Ewen Buchanan, spokesman for the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission. "Nobody's suggested that he's done anything illegal, have they? The UN doesn't check into people's personal lives."

McGeorge's bizarre background was exposed in yesterday's Washington Post, which found the information by searching various Web sites.

McGeorge, 53, is a former Secret Service agent and the president of the Virginia security firm Public Safety Group. He has appeared many times on TV as an explosives expert, analyzing the Cole, Oklahoma City and Africa embassy bombings.

He's also the founder of Black Rose, a Washington-area "pansexual" S&M club, where he helped produce a guide for "Dungeon Monitors" for the group's Web site.

As the former chairman of the board of the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom, he worked to safeguard the rights of the "SM-leather-fetish, swing and polyamory communities," according to the Web site.

And as a member of the "faculty" of a three-day "Leather University" conference in Florida, McGeorge taught the basics of rope bondage and more. Other classes included "Bloodsports 101," "Flagellation 201" and "Pervitibles 101."

McGeorge could not be reached for comment, but he told The Post: "I am who I am. I am not ashamed of who I am - not one bit."

Still, he said he'd offer to resign, saying he didn't want to damage the UN.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; pansexual; smfetish; uninspectors
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1 posted on 11/29/2002 1:41:13 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
I wonder if something like this explains Scott Ritter?
2 posted on 11/29/2002 1:43:43 AM PST by The Great Satan
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To: kattracks
Bwwwaaaaahahahahahaha!
3 posted on 11/29/2002 1:45:05 AM PST by ex-Texan
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To: kattracks
I can see the ad now:

WM BDSM seeks partner. Expert in warheads and munitions.

Heh heh.

4 posted on 11/29/2002 1:46:06 AM PST by Nick Danger
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To: kattracks
Still, he said he'd offer to resign, saying he didn't want to damage the UN.

I think the UN does a great job of damaging itself. It does not need him to do that.

5 posted on 11/29/2002 1:46:15 AM PST by Mark17
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To: kattracks
I said that the weapons inspections are a joke, but this is ridiculous...
6 posted on 11/29/2002 1:47:46 AM PST by The Great Satan
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To: Mark17
The fact that he's an American will do more damage to us than to the UN. Can't you just see the headlines around the world?
7 posted on 11/29/2002 1:51:56 AM PST by kattracks
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To: The Great Satan
As long as the munitions and warheads aren't covered with pig skin this clutz will never find them!

Just what the UN is looking for.
8 posted on 11/29/2002 1:55:03 AM PST by dalereed
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To: kattracks
Kind of makes sense if you think about it. Who would Saddam fear more? A normal US Marine, or a US Marine with a leather fetish, who enjoys giving and recieving pain? lol
9 posted on 11/29/2002 1:59:56 AM PST by flying Elvis
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To: kattracks
McGeorge, 53, is a former Secret Service agent and the president of the Virginia security firm Public Safety Group. He has appeared many times on TV as an explosives expert, analyzing the Cole, Oklahoma City and Africa embassy bombings.

Has anyone seen his analyses of those bombings? Does anyone know anything about his security firm -- what sort of job they do, how well they do it?

If the guy knows his stuff, who cares what he does in private? Except whoever it was who told the media about it. Perhaps that someone wants a person who knows *less* to take over that position? Perhaps that someone wants to embarrass, derail, or delay the entire inspection process? Or, considering the stress placed on his lack of a formal degree, perhaps that someone is angling for McGeorge's replacement to be a person with formal credentials (but perhaps less practical knowledge), which appointment would be advantageous to that someone.

10 posted on 11/29/2002 2:13:44 AM PST by Silverdrake
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To: kattracks
Maybe the Clintons needed a spy in the inspectors cadre?

Was the report that Hatfill (FBI's current person of interest in the anthrax attacks) was going to be on the team correct?

11 posted on 11/29/2002 2:55:58 AM PST by patriciaruth
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To: Silverdrake
If the guy knows his stuff, who cares what he does in private?

Clinton did sexual harrassment and rape in private. I cared.

For all I know this guy is a close friend of Gary Condit and that's why he is on the team now that Condit is losing his position on the House Intelligence Committee.

12 posted on 11/29/2002 2:58:37 AM PST by patriciaruth
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To: Mark17
I think the UN does a great job of damaging itself. It does not need him to do that.


13 posted on 11/29/2002 4:02:18 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: patriciaruth
His curriculum vitae, which can be acessed through Google, is unimpressive. He attended various course as the EOD school (bomb disposal) at Indian Head, Maryland. At one time they also gave the Special Weapons Disposal training at that site, which is where McGeorge likely comes in.
14 posted on 11/29/2002 4:05:32 AM PST by gaspar
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To: kattracks
"I am who I am. I am not ashamed of who I am - not one bit."

eeehuuuu! stop the S&M repeat trip, man. That's disgusting privileging yourself like that.

15 posted on 11/29/2002 4:08:59 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: kattracks
UN officials defended hiring the kinky co-founder of an S&M group as an Iraqi weapons inspector - saying his personal life is his own business.

Of course. After all, the first article of faith of the "Third Way, One World" types is "character doesn't count."

Their Übermensch Bill Clinton taught us that.

That said, perhaps this guy might be really useful in interrogations.

16 posted on 11/29/2002 4:55:46 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
FYI: The funny thing is you could read the above article and never know that it is a QUALITY GAY S&M SITE. I am not being a homophobe, the Gay part is prevelant on the site, maybe more than the S&M.
17 posted on 11/29/2002 5:04:52 AM PST by BushCountry
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To: kattracks
Always the same old story, "character doesn't count." Where have we heard that before?
18 posted on 11/29/2002 5:13:26 AM PST by elephantlips
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To: kattracks
And as a member of the "faculty" of a three-day "Leather University" conference in Florida, McGeorge taught the basics of rope bondage and more. Other classes included "Bloodsports 101," "Flagellation 201" and "Pervitibles 101."

Recent graduates include

19 posted on 11/29/2002 6:36:56 AM PST by watcher1
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To: kattracks
Is this the same website as the one mentioned in the article?

Black Rose is a non-profit organization which provides a forum for the many different expressions of power in love and play. This can include dominance & submission, bondage & discipline, fetishism, cross-dressing, to name a few.

20 posted on 11/29/2002 6:50:07 AM PST by kcvl
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