[liberallarry]

The Genesis of the Black Legend

You get the idea. The English and the French are not the originators of this stuff. And the moderns trying to refute it are not political correctniks...but rather Spaniards, Latin-Americans, and Catholics.

[muawiyah]

All of this stuff gets back to everybody's grandfather, a man named Rene of Anjou. Most of European history from the mid 1400s through to the end of the 1500s can be considered to be little more than bickering within his extended family.