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To: VadeRetro
A number of western migrations are recorded: Goths, Vandals, Huns, Lombards, Avars, Magyars, Turks, and Mongols to name a few.

Where are these Turks and Mongols now, they turned around and went back east?

It is not necessary and rather silly to make a desert of a very fertile area to have people migrating across it.

So you don't see any reason that a western migration could take place? What motivated the Goths and Vandals to move migrate west? You say it wasn't for more attractive land, then what was it?

It is enough if those crossing are more interested in plunder than farming.

So it's likely that Goths and Vandals would've been interested in plunder and but Pliny's Assyrian city-state would've not been interested in plunder and would've stayed right these at the north of the Black Sea? The Assyrians that lived north of the Black Sea had some kind of pacifying experience as they crossed the Caucasus?

It has amused me watching you be an idiot for page after page on this non-crucial point, even turning a blind eye to the shortcomings of communist economics as a basis for staying fed.

Getting testy again, I see. It's a point that relates to Pliny's Assyrian city-state and your claims about them. You say that while the Goths and Vandals would've left fertile lands to plunder west, Pliny's Assyrians suddenly would not have been interested in plundering along with the Goths and Vandals and would've been happy staying right where they were. Why was fertile land enough to keep the Assyrians where they were, but not enough to keep the Goths and Vandals where they were? Is there something about the character of the Goths, Vandals, and Assyrians that make you believe this? What is it about the Goth and Vandal makeup that makes them more apt to plunder?

What I would think you'd want to deal with is the lack of Hebrews and Assyrians in the historical list.

What list?

840 posted on 12/03/2002 4:48:09 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
Where are these Turks and Mongols now, they turned around and went back east?

So, you're lecturing the rest of us on history, but you need someone to tell you the outcomes of the Turkish and Mongol invasions of Europe? This on top of your being unaware of any economic difficulties occasioned by going communist?

You've spent too much time on this thread bludgeoning with your ignorance for me to worry now about even the most easily misguided lurker thinking that you know what you're talking about.

So it's likely that Goths and Vandals would've been interested in plunder and but Pliny's Assyrian city-state would've not been interested in plunder and would've stayed right these at the north of the Black Sea? The Assyrians that lived north of the Black Sea had some kind of pacifying experience as they crossed the Caucasus?

When the Goths and Vandals and Magyars and Turks and Mongols invaded Europe, people noticed. Your Assyrians never invaded Europe that anyone noticed. That's why they're not on the list.

What list?

That's your story and you're stickin' to it. I'll give you the last word. I'm resting my case.

843 posted on 12/03/2002 7:55:15 PM PST by VadeRetro
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