[Moosilauke]

I don't personally believe card counting is effective ...

It is effective...that't why the the casinos all employ the Griffin agency to keep track of the effective card counters so they can bar them. Only in Las Vegas is "paying attention" and "being smart" a crime.

[amtote]

Well casinos will use as much info as they can get. So if you're tagged a "counter" they will keep an eye on you and give you the heat if they feel you're winning too much. That doesn't necessarily prove a counting method is actually effective. It just means the casino is typically conservative when it comes to risks....they like the odds stacked in their favor. I do not think that an individual counting is going to get a significant advantage (provide they are even accurate) over a pure strategy player. I think what the casino is REALLY concerned about is a GROUP of counters forming a team at a table.

On another subject, I've always wondered..doesn't the privacy act or some other law give you the right to view your record when they are contained in database? Has anyone challenge Griffin to get the book?