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To: Poohbah
[Nope. Someone else will. There's a global oversupply of manufacturing capacity in these areas.]

Once again, suppose big guy tells little guy they had better not sell to you or else.

[No, we'll merely sink every China-bound oil tanker with a genuine AMERICAN-MADE Mark 48 torpedo.]

Now keep in mind Big Guy probably has those torpedoes also.

[ We have munitions factories already, son, they're just not being used right now]

Well, didn't I read we were going to purchase nuclear subs from some other country to give to Taiwan - because this other country makes our subs? Hmmmmm? NOw the operative word is 'not being used now'. Well, their factories are being used now.But let's us continue to give them money to keep those factories working. No need to worry because we are paying for the munitions that will be used against us - just because we want cheap shoes or Christmas lights - or ----

Hey it's free trade and that is wonderful. We have replaced the gospel of common sense and self reliance with the gospel of free trade - even though there is nothing 'free' about it.

245 posted on 11/26/2002 7:21:55 AM PST by nanny
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To: nanny
[Nope. Someone else will. There's a global oversupply of manufacturing capacity in these areas.]

Once again, suppose big guy tells little guy they had better not sell to you or else.

And we're the biggest big guy there is, and we make it clear that they'd BETTER sell to us or else.

[No, we'll merely sink every China-bound oil tanker with a genuine AMERICAN-MADE Mark 48 torpedo.]

Now keep in mind Big Guy probably has those torpedoes also.

No, they have inferior Russian knock-offs, and they don't have a navy. The biggest naval power in the world is the United States; everyone else is a very distant also-ran. DO try to pay attention to the details, son.

[ We have munitions factories already, son, they're just not being used right now] >Well, didn't I read we were going to purchase nuclear subs from some other country to give to Taiwan - because this other country makes our subs?

Let me guess: you got your education from the public school system.

The fact of the matter is that we only manufacture nuclear submarines, because that's all the US Navy uses; diesel-electric boats are made elsewhere. Our submarines are made here in the USA.

'Tis a far better idea to keep your mouth shut, and merely be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all remaining doubt.

Hey it's free trade and that is wonderful. We have replaced the gospel of common sense and self reliance with the gospel of free trade - even though there is nothing 'free' about it.

Fine. Live by the gospel of self-reliance--and take it to its logical conclusion. Don't post on Free Republic until you build your own PC and your own backbone connection to the Internet.

261 posted on 11/26/2002 8:53:21 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: nanny
Well, didn't I read we were going to purchase nuclear subs from some other country to give to Taiwan - because this other country makes our subs? Hmmmmm?

No. Memory is a tricky thing. As George Will would say, 'you're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts'. What you read is that in the latest Taiwan Defense Act Review the United States suggested that Taiwan buy some Dutch or German diesel subs. The United States doesn't buy or make diesel subs. We make and buy our own nuclear subs, but our navy doesn't want just anyone to have them. The Germans were caught off guard by the suggestion, and didn't want the bad relations with China that resulted when Taiwan purchased a pair of diesel subs from the Dutch previously.

Hey it's free trade and that is wonderful. We have replaced the gospel of common sense and self reliance with the gospel of free trade - even though there is nothing 'free' about it.

The 'free' in free trade refers to free from government restriction. With respect to government interference in trade there are two directions you can go. More freedom, or more government (essentially political) control. Which economies do best?

275 posted on 11/26/2002 10:43:14 AM PST by Gunslingr3
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