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To: BlackElk
"You never know. Those rednecks can be very clever. They may be sneaking across the border at night to dump the bodies. If he is sufficiently armed, an American can go anywhere he wants to go."

"Your planted axiom is that the murderers are ranchers rather than unemployable drunks, druggies, and half-wits out to vindicate their imagined superiority."

Interesting. You seem to have an agenda in your posts. I am interested in factual information regarding this issue, and realistic discussion of the results of the continued situation on our borders, and the proposed policies of "Amnesty" and "Guest Worker" programs. Your agenda falls in line with those who wish to demonize and shout down those who want to call the Federal Government to account for its failure to defend our nation's borders, its single most important constitutional mandate. Your protestations of conservative motivations not withstanding, I find your token throwaway Hillary bashing disturbingly ingenuine, and basically beside the point. If you mean to characterize honest citizens as "half-wits out to vindicate their imagined superiority", then I would suggest that other members of FR regard you as basically a dishonest disrupter, as you seem to fit the profile. Clearly, you have been here for a while... but your choice of rhetoric is quite disturbing and unfortunate. If my post is responded to with vituperation and ad-hominem attacks, I would point to that as proof of my suspicions.

106 posted on 11/24/2002 11:53:28 AM PST by Richard Axtell
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To: Richard Axtell
If you think I'm a closet liberal because I disagree with all this hysteria over borders, then I invite you to familiarize yourself with the general run of my posts. I only react to posts and do not post articles because I do not know how and because I have but one life to live.

Until then, I will say as to my agenda that I am Catholic and pro-life above all else, homeschool my kids, come from a working class factory-working New England family (the only avenue on which I have any sympathy at all with all the flapdoodle over the borders is the claim that it suppresses American workers' wages but certainly no more than GATT or NAFTA), practiced law for 25 years and am proud to be a recovering attorney who has sworn off being part of that particular problem in the future, believe in the strongest military America can create and that it should not be wasted on border duty, that we need no iron curtain around America, that taxes are bad, guns are good, encironmentalism (to which Tancredo has recently sunk) is a scam, that homosexuals have no business attempting marriage, that Ronald Reagan is the best president I will ever see and that Dubya is working his way up the list.

I would gladly see us bomb the UN to protect actual American sovereignty and torpedo at least GATT as a very real threat to our ability to conduct our own nation as we see fit.

Let's not exaggerate. There are many more important constitutional provisions to be vindicated (the right to keep and bear arms individually, freedom of speech, freedom of worship, freedom of assembly, fredom of the press, the right not to be sujected to warrantless search and seizure, the right to a jury trial, etc.) than the "constitutional mandate" (what constitutional mandate?) to defend our nation's borders.

I also know that Dubya is President because he had enough sense as governor of Texas and as a candidate for president to be polite and ASK for Hispanic votes.

I wrote a longer post but lost it through computer glitch. I won't try to duplicate it here. Two more points: One is that if you think that was a disingenuous attack on Hillary you don't know me very well and you are not familiar with my posts. I have for years referenced her and her consort and her as the Arkansas Antichrist and Mrs. Antichrist and to her as Her Satanic Majesty. If you don't believe that, ask me if I care. Second, yours is a prescription for guaranteeing a permanent regime such as the unlamented one of the Arkansas Antichrist. If we throw away the Mexicans and other Hispanics, we don't deserve to govern and we won't. Those are our reinforcements (on social issues) coming across that border even if they do not look like you or me. I am Irish, English, Scottish, Scots-Irish and German without a drop of Hispanic blood but fair is fair and truth is truth. Wait a generation or so and see if they are not solid citizens.

145 posted on 11/25/2002 1:01:25 AM PST by BlackElk
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