To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; Destro; CARepubGal; MarMema; kosta50
I see, so postings on a Calvinist website that attempt to break the Celtic Orthodox onto the Calvinist wheel is supposed to be convincing in some way?
We've been broken on harsher wheels without denying the Faith.
I doubt that this will convince anyone...on our side, at least. ;-)
27 posted on
03/08/2004 10:59:50 AM PST by
FormerLib
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To: FormerLib; Destro; CARepubGal; MarMema; kosta50
I see, so postings on a Calvinist website that attempt to break the Celtic Orthodox onto the Calvinist wheel is supposed to be convincing in some way? We've been broken on harsher wheels without denying the Faith. I doubt that this will convince anyone...on our side, at least. ;-)Ahem... or, you could try reading the above quotations -- what the Celtic Orthodox Fathers themselves declared.
- "Ye are saved by grace through faith, not through works through faith, that is, not through works; and, lest any careless one should arrogate to himself salvation by his faith, the apostle has added, "and that not of yourselves, because faith is not from ourselves, but from Him who hath called us."
Hmmm. Celtic Orthodox, or Calvin's Institutes? Can you tell any difference?
- "Man, by making an ill use of his Free-will, lost both himself and it. For, like a man who kills himself, is able, of course, to kill himself, because he lives, but by killing himself becomes unable to live, neither can raise himself again from the dead after he has killed himself; so when sin was committed by means of free-will, then, sin being the conqueror, free-will itself also was lost, for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he also brought into bondage."
Hmmm. Celtic Orthodox, or Calvin's Institutes? Can you tell any difference? (I can. The Celtic Orthodox view is even harsher on Man's Free Will than are the Institutes!)
- "God, Hath mercy with great goodness, and hardeneth without any iniquity; so that neither can he who is saved glory of his own merits, nor he that is lost complain but of his own merits."
Hmmm. Celtic Orthodox, or Calvin's Institutes? Can you tell any difference?
- "But if one first, dies not to sin, he cannot be buried with Christ, for no one is ever buried while yet living. Die thou first to sin that thou mayest be able to be buried with Christ, seeing that it is to the dead only we give sepulture."
Hmmm. Celtic Orthodox, or Calvin's Institutes? Can you tell any difference?
- "The Sacraments of the Altar are not the real Body and Blood of Christ, but only the commemoration of his Body and Blood."
Hmmm. Celtic Orthodox, or Calvin's Institutes? Can you tell any difference?
Here's the scoop, FL -- I'm not quoting what some Calvinist said about the Celtic Orthodox.
I'm quoting, in their very own words, the direct preaching of the Celtic Orthodox Fathers to their own flocks.
And there, you have it.
31 posted on
03/08/2004 11:13:02 AM PST by
OrthodoxPresbyterian
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