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To: All; MarMema
This would not be possible if the bread and wine somehow ceased being a created thing

consubstantiation

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Consubstantiation is one of the beliefs held by Christians about the Eucharist.

It holds that during the sacrament the Body of Christ enters the bread, and the Blood of Christ enters the wine, but they continue to be also bread and wine.

Today some Christian faiths, notably Anglicanism and Lutheranism, profess the doctrine of Consubstantiation. In England in the late 14th century, there was a political and religious movement known as Lollardy. Among much broader goals, the Lollards affirmed a form of consubstantiation -- that the Eucharist remained physically bread and wine, while becoming spiritually the body and blood of Christ. Lollardy was effectively ended with the execution of John Badby for heresy by burning at the stake.

MarMema, you need to revisit Orthodoxy and get back on the right track, because you have taken the wrong exit in my opinion and are teaching that which is not of Orthodox faith.

124 posted on 03/10/2004 1:48:23 AM PST by kosta50
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To: kosta50
I will tell the Greek Orthodox priest, whose words I copied verbatim above to you, that he should "revisit Orthodoxy" and "get back on the right track". I'll let him know that he is teaching that "which is not of the Orthodox faith" and especially that you know better than he does.
If you visit the website for the OCA, you will find the same statements made. But I suppose they should "revisit Orthodoxy" as well.

Have a nice Lent and Pascha.

126 posted on 03/10/2004 12:01:53 PM PST by MarMema (Next year in Constantinople!)
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