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THE FALL OF ORTHODOX ENGLAND
romanitas.ru ^ | Second Edition, 2000 | Vladimir Moss

Posted on 11/22/2002 10:22:39 PM PST by Destro

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To: strongbow; OrthodoxPresbyterian
History: Articles and resources relating to the history of the Orthodox Church in Ireland and throughout the British Isles


141 posted on 03/11/2004 10:43:05 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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orthodoxireland.com: An Orthodox Evaluation of Certain Teachings in the Writings of John Scotus Eriugena in Light of the Theology of St Gregory Palamas — by Father Geoffrey Ready
142 posted on 03/11/2004 10:45:02 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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Every time I post I don't mind a history lesson. Unlike Scotland and Wales - England was unique in that the people were at first pagan Anglo-Saxon/Jute invaders who came into a nominally Christian Britania of the late Roman Empire. The pagan Anglo-Saxons were later converted into a force for Christianity. They are not related to Celts by blood or even by missionary work since the conversion of the English was done from Rome rather then from Scotland or Wales. That is why the Celts get a passing mention but are of a seperate narrative to this English story and not told here. I hope that is clear.

Well, that may be an important distinction.

As is obviously evidenced by the title of his work, the Rev. Dr. J.A. Wylie is not primarily concerned with "The Fall of Orthodox England", but rather with "The History of the Scottish Nation".

Wylie actually spends very little time at all on the development of Orthodox Christianity amongst the Anglo-Saxons; his concern is almost-entirely focused upon the Celts of Scotia Major and Scotia Minor (Ireland and Scotland) and the Rock of Iona which formed a central monastic nexus between the two Scotias.

Wylie quotes numerous and extensive Patristic Quotations proving the existence of an ancient Strong-Predestinarian Tradition amongst the Orthodox Celts (albeit Greek-origin in Liturgy and Ecclesiology). He devotes nowhere near such consideration to the development of Christianity amongst the Anglo-Saxons.

Why? Because to Wylie, the Anglo-Saxons were a Pagan Invader who cut off the Orthodox Celts from Roman Christendom for over 200 years. He's not particularly concerned with the LATER evangelization of the Anglo-Saxons; he's primarily concerned with the isolated development of the Celtic Scots -- "THE HISTORY OF THE SCOTTISH NATION"; or as the Venerable Bede has explained: "beyond the reach of the decrees of synods, . . . they could learn only those thing contained in the writings of the Prophets, the Evangelists, and the Apostles."

143 posted on 03/11/2004 10:55:40 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty)
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"This is historical revisionism of the worst sort."

Absolutely!!! This kind of crap is nearly as bad as the revisionism that sees England as the final destination of the lost tribes of Israel. It is pure fantasy created by people with an axe to grind.

Britain has always been Rome's canonical territory as evidenced by the ancient basilicas that have been unearthed here long before the Angles, Saxons, Jutes and Danes got here - not to mention the arrival of St. Augustine. I wonder how a revisionist thread about Ukraine and Russia being originally Catholic would go down?

England is Our Lady's dowry and will one day be restored to the orthodox Catholic Faith again. I don't expect most of the contributors to this thread to understand this though because:

a) They are not English

and

b) They don't understand the English phronema!

Hands off our history Johnny foreigners!!!!


144 posted on 04/08/2005 10:57:26 AM PDT by Tantumergo
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England is Our Lady's dowry and will one day be restored to the orthodox Catholic Faith again.

Amen


Wilton Diptych

145 posted on 04/08/2005 11:36:51 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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