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Pacific Ocean Temperature Changes Point To Natural Climate Variability
spacedaily.com ^ | 22 Nov 02 | staff

Posted on 11/22/2002 2:26:30 PM PST by RightWhale

EL NINO Pacific Ocean Temperature Changes Point To Natural Climate Variability

College Station - Nov 18, 2002

Analysis of long-term changes in Pacific Ocean temperatures may provide additional data with which to evaluate global warming hypotheses. "Abrupt changes in water temperatures occurring over intervals of up to 25 years suggest that global warming may result as much from natural cyclical climate variations as from human activity," said Benjamin Giese, oceanography professor in the College of Geosciences.

"Climate models constructed here at Texas A&M University were used to analyze ocean surface temperature records in the tropical Pacific since 1950. The results suggest that as much as one-half of all global surface warming since the 1970's may be part of natural variation as distinct from the result of greenhouse gases,"

Giese and graduate student Amy J. Bratcher published the results of their analysis in the Oct. 8 issue of Geophysical Research Letters. Surface air temperature records maintained over the past 120 years serve as the main evidence for hypotheses linking global warming to increased greenhouse gases generated by manmade (anthropogenic) causes. These records show the average global air temperature has risen by about one-half degree Centigrade over the last 50 years. But while the general air temperature trend seems to be undisputedly upward, this upward trend varies considerably.

"How much of this variability is attributable to natural variations and how much is due to anthropogenic contributions to atmospheric greenhouse gases has not yet been resolved," Giese said. "Recent studies indicate that it is difficult to separate intrinsic natural variance from anthropogenic forcing in the climate system."

Giese believes their analysis of tropical Pacific Ocean data indicates long-term upward changes in ocean temperatures precede global surface air temperature changes by about four years. These ocean temperature fluctuations are in turn preceded by an increase in subsurface water temperatures by about seven years.

"Thus, the results suggest that much of the decade to decade variations in global air temperature may be attributed to tropical Pacific decadal variability," Giese observed. "The results also suggest that subsurface temperature anomalies in the southern tropical Pacific can be used as a predictor of decadal variations of global surface air temperature."

For example, in 1976 an abrupt change in the temperature of the tropical Pacific Ocean preceded a rise of two-tenths of a degree in global air temperatures. "This phenomenon looks like El Nino, but with a much longer time scale - El Nino occurs over a period of from nine to 12 months, but this fluctuation lasts for about 25 years," he continued. "In 1976, the ocean temperature change in question occurred very quickly, moving from cooler than normal to warmer than normal in about a year."

Bratcher and Giese report that now conditions in the tropical Pacific are similar to those prior to the 1976 climate shift, except with the opposite sign. If conditions develop in a similar way, then the tropical Pacific could cool back to pre-1976 conditions. "The subsurface tropical Pacific has shown a distinct cooling trend over the last eight years, so the possibility exists that the warming trend in global surface air temperature observed since the late 1970's may soon weaken," Giese observed.

"This natural variation would help to counter the greenhouse gas warming effect. In fact, careful study reveals that global warming and cooling has occurred in the past in cyclical patterns."

Giese's work involves constructing computer models that incorporate years of weather data to reveal recurring patterns of oscillation and help identify mechanisms that may affect climate. He focuses on climate oscillations that are not directly forced by such things as changing amounts of sunlight, but instead are mechanisms of internal climatic variation for which scientists have as yet isolated no particular cause.

"Our model results terminated at the end of 2001," he said. "Now we're waiting to see what their long-term effects may be on global temperatures.

"Our results don't preclude the possibility that anthropogenic sources of greenhouse gases have contributed to global warming. We're just suggesting that the human forced portion of global warming may be less than previously described."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cretien; elnino; kyoto; scam
Funny that none of these effects received journalistic notice before Dubya said no to Kyoto.
1 posted on 11/22/2002 2:26:31 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
I was just thinking back to my days in school. When I would be told that the earth was dying, that I would have to live underground to avoid the heat of the sun, that everything man did polluted the earth and that man was the cause of all problems [which is just an environmentalists extension from the Islamic view that Jews cause all of the world's problems].

I then watched on TV celebrities hold hands and sway back and forth to convince the world to stop its evil polluting ways and news anchors blathered on incessantly about the findings of one Research Institute after another confirming hollywood's suspicions.

In my youth I actually believed this and for a moment in time I think I actually considered making environmental studies my life's work. I am thankful to conservatives everywhere for turning me just before I wasted my entire life. I urge you to take a moment and send an e-mail to an environmentalist today thanking them for their efforts. I know I would have appreciated any sentiment that my life was not a wasted one.

2 posted on 11/22/2002 2:34:46 PM PST by Naspino
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To: RightWhale; Naspino
This story will be on CNN and CBS tonight. I promise.

\sarcasm
3 posted on 11/22/2002 2:51:30 PM PST by agenda_express
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To: RightWhale
I've been pondering this issue.

After a lot of thought, it seems to me that *Sun* might have something to do with our climate.

I know---this is a very radical idea. Most modern scientists think the Sun has nothing to do with the seasons or any temperature variations on Earth, that all climate changes are due solely to SUVs.

But, after spending a lot of time in deep thought I realized that there was a climate on Earth *years before* the first SUV was created!

Therefore, there has to be another explanation for the seasons and any differences in temperatures over time.

The Sun may just be that missing link.

4 posted on 11/22/2002 5:42:28 PM PST by 07055
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To: RightWhale
Darn! You posted this before I got back from my trip!

Thanks.

5 posted on 11/27/2002 12:38:56 PM PST by cogitator
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To: cogitator
El Nino occurs over a period of from nine to 12 months, but this fluctuation lasts for about 25 years

Meteorology has come a long ways since 1962 when I was a lab assistant in the meteoriology dept at Columbia. One thing that has improved is the ability of weather forecasters to hedge their predictions.

6 posted on 11/27/2002 12:48:57 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
One thing that has improved is the ability of weather forecasters to hedge their predictions.

They've been taking lessons from the climatologists.

7 posted on 11/27/2002 12:59:20 PM PST by cogitator
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To: RightWhale
It was autumn, and the Indians on the remote reservation asked their new Chief if the winter was going to be cold or mild. Since he was an Indian Chief in a modern society, he had never been taught the old secrets.

When he looked at the sky, he couldn't tell what the weather was to be. Nevertheless, to be on the safe side, he replied to his tribe that the winter was indeed going to be cold and that the members of the village should collect firewood to be prepared.

Also, being a practical leader, after several days he got an idea. He went to the phone booth, called the National Weather Service and asked, "Is the coming winter going to be cold?" "It looks like this winter is going to be quite cold indeed," the meteorologist at the weather service responded. So the Chief went  back to  his people and told them to collect even more wood in order to be prepared.

A week later, he called the National Weather Service again. Is it going to be a very cold winter?  "Yes," the man at National Weather Service again replied, "it's definitely  going to be a very cold winter." The Chief again went back  to his people and ordered them to collect every scrap of wood they  could find.

Two weeks later, he called the National Weather Service again. "Are you   absolutely sure that the winter is going to be very cold?" "Absolutely," the man replied.  "It's going to be one of the coldest winters ever." "How can you be so sure?" the Chief asked. The weatherman replied, "The Indians are collecting wood."
8 posted on 11/27/2002 1:05:53 PM PST by Mat_Helm
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