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17 posted on 11/21/2002 10:09:27 AM PST by dennisw
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I think the problems facing the modern Left besides infighting among leftists, it's their dictatorial leadership that imposes its will on its members, and a modern society that does not appreciate the value of freedom. The leftist's objective is to resist and change a world that is dramatically "wrong and unjust." …their way.

42 posted on 11/21/2002 8:36:32 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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The Old Testament is one of war time like discipline in the faith of constantly threatened diaspora. Jews do not want to be this united army of G_d. Many Jews are afraid to end the war declared on them and they do not want to accept the rank they were given. Only terrorism, Nazi genocide and constant war unfortunately can force them together again, accepting their rank, rank of the Jew that ironicaly the German Nazies tried to institute.

Nazies were cowards who instinctively knew that Jews were war enders of higher rank than themselves. So the Nazies usurped the humility and then glory of the war ending soldier showing a deep spread in rank between him and G_d, and hijacked this glory by starting wars and genocide while claiming they were ending war and genocide.

These individuals who should consider themselves honored to sit in hell under constant torture unwittingly proved by the absurd the worth of the Jews. Now many Jews are not convinced yet of their own inherent worth and ability to fight wars to end wars, in humility, others outright rebel because they do not want to lose their current rank. Uniting the JEws means many Jews in power will have to lose their rank and be ruled by the like of Somali Jews (for example) who fight the war to end the war on the Jews, and they do not want that to happen. Even within the right wing Netanyahu is dividing the state by claiming power through bashing Sharon. Sharon is wiser, and his unity government was what was needed, however he should have looked in leftists of lower ranks who could move up, instead of leftists like Peres who started the wars and do not want to end them lest they lose their rank given to them in the form of the Nobel Peace Prize. THIS WAS A CAPITAL ERROR ON THE PART OF SHARON, to yield to world pressure and not fire Peres and Arafat who started it all and have no intention of ending it all, letting brave military men show their worth and replace them.

As an aside, I go into a squabble regarding gays in the military, and I reproduce it below. Gay Jews in Israel better wake up and smell the coffee. Their rank is not endangered by G_d and Israeli unity, but by the terrorists who want to keep proving the absurd.

LOL! This stuff cracks me up. Have you ever actually met a gay person? Are they unable to follow orders?

In man there is a peace time and war time duality. Normal people have jurisdiction during peace time and rank during war time. Because normal people like to end wars, not to start them.

Terrorists on the other hand seem to follow orders, but in fact they are not, because they are the ones starting the conflicts not ending them, pitting good nations against good nations.

A gay person that in peace time rebels against an inalienable biological state of living is a person starting a revolution. THe gay person is inherently a revolutionary and unfit for an honorable military duty.

So it may seem like they can take orders, but their houses is divided against itself from the beginning. They never take orders, and if they do, ultimately, in times of peace, they use their military rank and public acceptability to continue revolution and starting PCness terrorism.

GET A FREAKING CLUE. DUHHHH!!

48 posted on 11/22/2002 2:12:13 AM PST by lavaroise
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