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THERE MUST BE SOMEONE WHO WILL SUE BILL CLINTON OVER TAINTED BLOOD
the news | 11-20-02 | dfu

Posted on 11/20/2002 11:46:00 PM PST by doug from upland

LINK TO THE STORY.

Now that four Canadian doctors have been charged in the tainted blood scandal, perhaps the relative of a victim will finally go after Bill Clinton.

This is a story that needs to be told and once for which Clinton must pay.

Is there an attorney who is handling these cases? How can we convince a relative that he needs to go after Clinton? Any ideas?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bloodhounds; canada; hiv; taintedblood
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To: doug from upland

23 posted on 11/21/2002 2:02:39 PM PST by Consort
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To: JimSimon
No, but there is plenty of circumstantial evidence that Slick Willie was involved in permanently silencing people who knew to much. Just because it can't be proved in our legal system (note; I don't refer to it as a justice system) doesn't mean its not true. Sounds like you may have some skeletons in your own closet JimSimon.
24 posted on 11/21/2002 2:19:12 PM PST by MoGalahad
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To: JimSimon
$25,000 -- (at least! in one term). That's what Jim -- about 8,000 ounces of silver at the time? Seven talents or so. Fungible. Money is fungible. Put $100 in pot A, Clinton's wallet, or pot B, Clinton's campaign fund, as it is the criminal politician Clinton who controls both pots, the money in pot B is still his.

There is no more effective money laundering capability than holding a decently high political office. Clinton and the Clinton Mob are acme examples.

This kind of thing -- the blood scandal -- is like the rotten City Engineer -- call him Eddie R., say -- who runs a consultancy on the side. Joey B, builder, uses sandy concrete to save money. Very sandy -- way under spec. Yet Joey hires Eddie's firm for a lot of other work. Pretty easy work too. But not cheap.

Well, when Eddie R., the City Engineer, tests Joey B.'s samples from the new convention center and hotel complex, gee ... the samples get mixed up. The ones that are tested come back jim dandy.

Saves Joey B. half a mil or so concrete costs.

Only thing is -- nine years later, a fire. Normally the building would hold up to the heat stresses and strains. Unfortunately not with Joey B's cheap concrete. Badda-boom. Sixty people dead, hundreds injured.

But it was a fire, see?

25 posted on 11/21/2002 2:23:15 PM PST by bvw
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To: JimSimon
Actually, I'm not talking about a union donation, as I remember.
28 posted on 11/21/2002 2:36:35 PM PST by bvw
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To: JimSimon
Time for you to put up or shut up. -- I'm asking you that question. Why do you so strongly feel that of all people, Clinton, is a saint in this? What is your motive? Put up! Hey hey!
30 posted on 11/21/2002 2:42:30 PM PST by bvw
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To: JimSimon
In the example you did read that I did write, the money that engineer Eddie took in his consultancy business was all legit too. And the concrete samples? Nothing illegal, just an honest mix-up!
31 posted on 11/21/2002 2:45:26 PM PST by bvw
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To: JimSimon
I hadn't seen your name before but went back to see some of your responses in the forum. Now I understand. You have come here because you like to hear yourself argue. That is fine.

I'll play along one more time and then you can mentally masturbate with yourself. This is from memory so choosing to verify it or not is your decision. I'm getting ready for my vacation to Florida, and satisfying newbie Jim Simon is not my highest priority. No, really it's not, although I certainly recognize how important you are.

In about 1982 or 1983, the FDA first shut down the blood-letting at Cummins. With Clinton's help, it was again opened under the name of something like ADC Plasma or ABC Plasma. Varner and Pine Bluff Biologicals also come to mind.

HMA had sold sick plasma to a company called Cryosan. Cryosan was shut down for buying blood from cadavers in about 1979 or thereabouts. Blood brokers, as I recall and which others may recall, were among the largest donors to Clinton in both Arkansas and for the presidential campaign.

The Dept. of Corrections was obviously under the governor's jurisdiction. You can either believe that or not believe it, but I am not going to the code from the state of Arkansas to cite it for you. Clinton had read his own state police report about the prisons and the corruption. Art Lockner or Lockhart was in charge of the plasma program and should have been fired. Clinton, however, defended him.

Pharmaceuticals that were buying the plasma from a program that should have been shut down for good instead of being re-opened, were giving campaign contributions to Clinton. My definition of Clinton benefiting would include campaign contributions from those he kept in business in this illicit and deadly activity. Your definition may not include that. Any non-KookAid drinker would find it obvious that such is a personal benefit.

I have had the opportunity to meet and interview many of the players from Arkansas, including three former troopers. Here is how it works. Clinton gives a state commission to someone and that person brings with him a suitcase of cash for the campaign. One trooper personally witnessed cash being passed to Clinton when an unqualified person was named to a police commission. To paraphrase Clinton --- "Sometimes you have to do something bad to do something good."

During impeachment, I helped arrange for Dr. Paul Fick to meet with the House investigators regarding Clinton's perjury in the criminal trial of bankers Herbie Branscum and Robert Hill, in which Clinton testified on video tape. I provided them a transcript of the testimony. Fick provided info and the names of eight people who either paid money for commissions or helped launder the money. Although they were stunned and concluded that Clinton had indeed committed perjury in a criminal trial, they were out of time to pursue it. I have discussed it with David Schippers, and he regrets that there wasn't enough time.

I've met and interviewed Paula Jones. She lost the first round, but he paid her off anyway because he was scared to death of what would happen in an appeal. I've communicated many times with Juanita Broaddrick. The statue of limitations has run on the rape charge, so in your mind I am sure you believe that he didn't rape her.

There are hundreds of tainted blood stories and links. I don't have on my desk original documents that would be admitted as evidence in a court of law.

Now, there is a thoughtful response that took more of my time than you deserve to have. Will you do this for me so we know your beliefs? It will only take a few moments of your time.

Do you believe (answer yes or no) the following:

1. Bill Clinton raped Juanita Broaddrick.

2. Bill Clinton committed perjury when he claimed he never gave a job in exchange for sexual favors.

3. On Clinton's behalf, Bruce Lindsey solicited false affidavits from potential witnesses.

4. Bill Clinton used cocaine while he was an elected official.

5. Bill Clinton suborned perjury.

6. Potential witnesses were intimidated by Clinton's associates.

7. Clinton benefitted (to the tune of a 900K contribution) by changing the law so that the technology sold by Bernie Schwartz of Loral to the Chinese Communists was no long banned technology.

8. Bill Clinton committed perjury when he testified that he has never sexually harassed a woman.

Those answers will take you less than a minute. Please have the intellectually honesty to answer them.

33 posted on 11/21/2002 2:56:11 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: JimSimon
The truth? No way, Jimmie -- you were much too quick on the draw with that "put up or shut up" remark. Patience is a remarkably sure sign of a genuine truth-interested person. Since you ain't showed but impulsivity ... well, that's worse than a "strike three" call, Jimbo, I mean you just hit into a double play with bases loaded, in the ninth inning.

Bye, bye!

34 posted on 11/21/2002 3:02:45 PM PST by bvw
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To: FR_addict
AIDS is a 99.9% preventable disease and could have been stopped in its tracks, regardless of who the president was, with a simple change in behavior. By and large, the gay community wanted to blame others for the predicament that it put itself into -- not to say that anyone "deserves" the disease, but neither can you blame others for your own high-risk behavior. This is why Africa is an AIDS-doomed mess. They all know about condoms. They just don't want to use them.
35 posted on 11/21/2002 3:04:48 PM PST by Inkie
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37 posted on 11/21/2002 3:06:11 PM PST by Brian Mosely
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To: JimSimon
"Because no one has presented some even moderately compelling evidence."

While we all await your answers to the 8 simple questions, we are in agreement. I also want compelling evidence presented. That was the original reason for the post. I want this to go to court so we can see the evidence.

Now, for the rest of us who want to get back on track, what can be done to get the victims to go after our rapist friend in court?

38 posted on 11/21/2002 3:06:40 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
Bump!! (praying for a cure)
40 posted on 11/21/2002 3:09:27 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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