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Attn Hate-Filled Angry Liberals: You're Not Going to Get Your Utopia [Lileks Alert - MUST READ!]
The Bleat ^ | November 11, 2002 | James Lileks

Posted on 11/19/2002 10:41:12 PM PST by Timesink

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I'm surprised nobody posted this last week when it was originally published. In any case, it's a home run by Lileks, and fully explains why we have every reason to disparage and ignore most liberals today.
1 posted on 11/19/2002 10:41:12 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Timesink
Bumped to reread and appreciate even more when I'm awake. Thank you.
2 posted on 11/20/2002 12:00:37 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: stands2reason
bump for later
3 posted on 11/20/2002 12:25:59 AM PST by stands2reason
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To: Timesink
Excellent read--thanks!
4 posted on 11/20/2002 12:33:32 AM PST by Reb Raider
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To: Timesink
Personally, I’m interested in keeping other people from building Utopia, because the more your believe you can create heaven on earth the more likely you are to set up guillotines in the public square to hasten the process.

zzzing! Sure wish I could write like this.

-ccm

5 posted on 11/20/2002 12:34:04 AM PST by ccmay
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To: Timesink
As for the “religious right,” they are utterly irrelevant to me. I’ve been told for 20 years that they will bring a miserable double-knit Pat Boone theocracy, but the evidence seems lacking.

Ding, ding, ding. From libertarians, to moderates, to liberals, there is this unsupported fear of the religious right. They really believe that the religious right is on the verge of legislating what goes on in bedrooms. The only thing close in the last 20 years was when Alabama (a Democratic governor, I migh add) tried to outlaw vibrators. Fortunately, such stupidity was overturned.

6 posted on 11/20/2002 12:36:44 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Timesink
"I’m talking about those preening sneerbots who lack the capacity for spiritual contemplation, and think that anyone given to theosophical disquisitions is akin to a small boy expecting Superman to fly through the window and help him tie his shoe."
7 posted on 11/20/2002 12:46:13 AM PST by MrJingles
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An old friend who still believes what we believed in college took me to task the last time we met, and wondered where Mr. Middle Ground had gone, why I no longer seemed interested in finding commonality. The simple answer is that there is no common ground with people who think you’re a political leper,...

Yep... but furthermore, I've become convinced as I get older that I can not change the minds of someone unless they have already come to the uncomfortable place that they know something is wrong with their world view. Only then can I attempt to communicate with them. Fortunately for those of us who are conservative, people become wiser as they become older, and thus more conservative (in general) so we have the constant pleasure of younger folks joining our ranks. It must be very disheartening for those liberals who just can't figure it out as they get older and older as they watch their ranks get thinner. (I made the switch in my early 20's, so never experienced a friend's conversion away from liberalism... must be a bummer.)

No matter, though. All I'm interested in now is defeating them.

8 posted on 11/20/2002 1:39:27 AM PST by AFPhys
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Agree w/ your above #5 post.

That one sentence summed its author's gut.

A very good, and must, read.

Mustang sends.

9 posted on 11/20/2002 1:41:54 AM PST by Mustang
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To: AFPhys
The problem is that many people who are conservatives still vote Democratic. Because a great many of them are single-issue voters. I can talk with my sisters and my girl friend on social matters, and they will agree with me on on just about every point. But they vote Dem I'm convinced specifically on abortion of which they are all pro-choice. The same with many of my co-workers who vote Dem because "Republicans are against the workingman". Most people over the age of forty are indeed conservatives (at least here in the Midwest), but the Dems have the ability to appeal to that particular single issue which sways many people.
10 posted on 11/20/2002 2:28:14 AM PST by driftless
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To: driftless
my observation is that the single issue voters are starting to grow up... unless they're libertarian...
11 posted on 11/20/2002 5:00:22 AM PST by AFPhys
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To: Always Right
They really believe that the religious right is on the verge of legislating what goes on in bedrooms.

I don't think that fear is altogether without merit. Bowers vs. Hardwick was only 16 years ago and hasn't been overturned.

I'm not against any state or community defining what it's local standards and laws are, but I think selective prosecution is inherently unjust.

12 posted on 11/20/2002 5:58:58 AM PST by tdadams
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To: Timesink
An old friend who still believes what we believed in college took me to task the last time we met, and wondered where Mr. Middle Ground had gone, why I no longer seemed interested in finding commonality. The simple answer is that there is no common ground with people who think you’re a political leper

Back in college I had a roommate that was as liberal as I am conservative. Despite that, we got along great because we each respected each other's opinion and didn't think of each other as brainwashed idiots.

13 posted on 11/20/2002 6:01:08 AM PST by tdadams
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To: Timesink
Great article, great post. Bumped and bookmarked.
14 posted on 11/20/2002 6:27:12 AM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Timesink; Kevin Curry; Texasforever; Roscoe; Boot Hill

A Free State Robespierre Project bump!

15 posted on 11/20/2002 6:34:39 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: #3Fan; A CA Guy; Amelia; anniegetyourgun; AppyPappy; ArneFufkin; Arthur McGowan; backhoe; ...
BTTT
16 posted on 11/20/2002 6:35:21 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Timesink
I don't know how he can say we don't like interracial friendships... sme of my best friends are middle class white males...

;0)
17 posted on 11/20/2002 6:37:31 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Cultural Jihad
Thanks for the ping. Libs will never understand that a theocracy on earth is not possible in this age. Beyond that, it's ruling center in that day will certainly not be in the good 'ol US of A!

Their misplaced their fears of God (Someone they should fear) are projected onto His followers, who are simply bond-slaves of Christ.

18 posted on 11/20/2002 6:44:59 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Belugas?
19 posted on 11/20/2002 6:49:31 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Woops, thought it said "white whales". My bad.
20 posted on 11/20/2002 6:49:49 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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