Then you agree with me. If you read my post that was my point.
As far as Government playing by the rules, thats an ideological rather than a practical point. It will take a hundred years, and 300 million pissed off people to undue the abuses of government legislation that is unconstitutional on its face.
from a practical standpoint, the two areas the government rightly gets the most leeway in are Common Defence, and General Welfare, and having people on our shores (how they got here is a separate issue, that also eeds to be addressed) that wish to do us ill, dictates that measures be taken, that having been said, the nature of FISA being so secretive, we are currently unable to even comment on it intelligently at any real level, because we have no working knowledge.Not a comforting postion.
If they will remember the original ideas of Founding Fathers. Where will they learn them?