Nancy Pelosi is not a 'conservative Catholic'; anti-life stance creates scandal within Church

American Life League ^ | 11-18-02 | staff

[Right Wing Professor]

U.S. Catholics vote OVERWHELMINGLY Democrat.

Lie.

http://members.aol.com/jimcast/id30.htm

You'll see that in only two years out of eight was the Catholic vote more than 50% for Democrats. Three times the Catholic vote was over 50% for the Republicans. Or are you too stupid to understand what the word 'overwhelmingly' means?

Catholics might have been even more pro-Republican in 2000 if it hadn't been for Bush's hesitation in dissociating himself from anti-Catholic bigots like yourself early in the campaign.

Incidentally, observant Catholics tend to vote more heavily Republican than non-observant ones.

[Campion]

Does Roman Catholicism have any figures representing the percentage of Catholics who are "Practising Catholics"?

Somewhere between 30% and 40% of self-identified Catholics in the US attend Mass weekly, or almost weekly.

But since you're here Campion, let me ask you (not trying to start a flame war) WHY exactly do Catholics NOT vote Republican?

They can't stand the Christian love, kindness, warmth, and acceptance they get from Republicans like you. Too rich for their metabolism.

Did you read the link?

[berned]

Yea I know but the democrats give us so many other things."

I've asked Campion his opinions also on why RCCs so ardently support the Democrats.

Are you saying they put personal comfort and financial gain ahead of God and morality?

That would argue that merely baptising a baby has no effect whatsoever on their life choices. It merely allows the Vatican to grossly inflate their "worldwide numbers".

[Right Wing Professor]

As, for example, the Bob Jones University incident; 'Dr.' Ian Paisley, 'spiritual' leader of the mobs who burned Catholic families out of their homes in Northern Ireland in 1969, got his honorary 'doctorate' from Bob Jones.

[Right Wing Professor]

I've asked Campion his opinions also on why RCCs so ardently support the Democrats.

Repeating a lie just makes it worse. Check out the statistics, bigot.

[berned]

They can't stand the Christian love, kindness, warmth, and acceptance they get from Republicans like you. Too rich for their metabolism.

So you seem to be saying that Catholics do not act based on what God says in the Bible.

They have to be cajoled in some way, "bribed" by either financial gain, or some kind of emotional touchy-feely ecumenicalism before they will vote responsibly?

People go into the voting booth ALL ALONE. They answer, ultimately to GOD, not Jerry Fallwell or me.

The way you describe Catholics, they sound like the blacks who won't vote unless there is some financial gain involved. Morality is not what motivates them but rather having their personal nest feathered in some way.

Interesting.

[Right Wing Professor]

So you seem to be saying that Catholics do not act based on what God says in the Bible. God says in the Bible "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor." Your statement that Catholics vote overwhelmingly Democratic is clearly bearing false witness. So why don't we start by explaining why you did what the eighth commandment says not to so? (oops, you guys have a different numbering system, don't you, I guess that would be the ninth?)

[Campion]

So you seem to be saying that Catholics do not act based on what God says in the Bible.

People who are voting pro-abort aren't "acting based on what God says in the Bible," whether they're Catholics, Baptists, Buddhists, Zoroastrians ...

That's practically tautological. Of course, they may be doing it out of ignorance or just plain stupidity.

OTOH, Catholics who actually practice Catholicism and believe in it, don't vote pro-abort. For instance, there are some guys in my Opus Dei meetings who make you look like a flaming liberal.

[Campion]

That would argue that merely baptising a baby has no effect whatsoever on their life choices.

Judas Iscariot was circumcised a Jew on the eighth day. What effect did that have on his "life choices"?

[berned]

"Catholics keep voting Democratic. In 1996, 54% of Catholics went for Bill Clinton, 38% for Bob Dole. They were among the few groups whose 1996 support for the president increased over its 1992 level. To be sure, the percentage of Catholics who identify themselves as practicing has declined quite sharply, from 73% in 1960 to 46% in 1996.

But even among "active" Catholics, who attend Mass weekly, 44%, a hefty plurality, supported Clinton, while 47% voted for Dole. (These figures are taken from a Crisis magazine survey of Catholic voting patterns in November 1998 and June 1999.) "

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/48/story_4816_1.html

[berned]

What a mind-bogglingly dishonest reply.

[Campion]

But even among "active" Catholics, who attend Mass weekly, 44%, a hefty plurality, supported Clinton, while 47% voted for Dole. (These figures are taken from a Crisis magazine survey of Catholic voting patterns in November 1998 and June 1999.) "

So, so far we have active Catholics going 47% to 44% for Dole over Clinton in 1996, and 57% to (less than) 43% for Bush in 2000. Care to post any more evidence that proves you wrong?

[Campion]

What a mind-bogglingly dishonest reply.

Your #70? I agree.

[berned]

Catholics might have been even more pro-Republican in 2000 if it hadn't been for Bush's hesitation in dissociating himself from anti-Catholic bigots like yourself early in the campaign

So catholic "morality" is defined by human associations and political affiliations -- not THE BIBLE?????

[berned]

Wow, You sure are clever.

[Campion]

So catholic "morality" is defined by human associations and political affiliations -- not THE BIBLE?????

You still haven't read the link. What are you afraid of?

[berned]

What can we offer catholics for their vote?

Maybe you catholics can come up with a "dollar figure" that we can bribe your numbers with to vote Republican so we can get rid of Roe v Wade. What would that be worth to y'all?

Regarding your link, Campion -- YOU shrug off the reams and reams of Scripture I have posted to you over the yeras that you let go by without even acknowledging. So your link will just have to go unread.

[berned]

Evangelicals vote over 90% Republican year after year after year, without having to be cajoled, or threatened, or shamed into it, or bribed by financial gain in any way.

There is no thread like this bemoaning evangelical lack of support for getting rid of abortion.

[Campion]

Regarding your link, Campion -- YOU shrug off the reams and reams of Scripture I have posted to you over the yeras that you let go by without even acknowledging. So your link will just have to go unread.

This post pretty much speaks for itself. Someday, Jesus will want to you to answer for how you spent your time. This is going to be some of the evidence that will be presented against you.

Incidentally, "reams and reams of Scripture"? Most of your posts don't contain any Scripture at all, they contain devious attempts to trip up Catholics so you can pounce on them.

[Campion]

Evangelicals vote over 90% Republican year after year after year

The evangelical vote elected Jimmy Carter. He was "one of us". Maybe you don't remember that; I do.