Skip to comments.
Germans call Churchill a war criminal (HOLD MEIN BIER...YET AGAIN)
The Daily Telegraph ^
| November 19, 2002
| Kate Connolly
Posted on 11/18/2002 5:07:02 PM PST by MadIvan
click here to read article
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100, 101-120, 121-140 ... 181-188 next last
To: MadIvan
There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, war is all hell and cannot be refined" -William T. Sherman
Everything, everything in war is barbaric....But the worst barbarity of war is that it forces men collectively to commit acts against which individually they would revolt with their whole being. -Ellen Key
It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. -Douglas MacArthur
The end of war is not battle, but the defeat of the adversary. -Basil Henry Liddell Hart
It is not the big armies that win battles, it is the good ones. -Maurice de Saxe
To: Cacique
The Germans are lucky that they didn't end up the way of Carthage. Alemania delendo est!
-ccm
102
posted on
11/18/2002 8:58:45 PM PST
by
ccmay
To: weegee
There was a spiking of the atrocities committed by the Japanese Imperial Military forces throughout Japan in their media, books and schools after 1960. Many younger Japanese born decades after WWII had no idea what happened.
In Germany, it seems to be a case of redoing and forgetting history on a large scale. Hopefully, there aren't new Nazis behind this rewriting of history.
These are the people that I'm brutal with when they try to take grievances to what we did.
I told one young German who thought that we were brutal, that our troops should have stopped on the France/German border and let the Russians take all of Germany. Then there would be no grievances about how bad we and the UK were. I thought that he was going to throw up. This was about a year before the USSR fell apart. I told him that we could still do it. He never brought up his complaints about evil Brits and Yankees again.
To: MadIvan
Yank to Fritz: GO TO HELL!!!!!!! Churchill saved Western Civilzation from the likes of your statist asses and woke us up to the Commies. F**K YOU!!!!!
104
posted on
11/18/2002 9:29:55 PM PST
by
Sparta
To: Grampa Dave
The Nazis started the bombing of innocent civilians when they invaded Poland and when they helped their Fascist buddies in Spain.
Careful. We have Franco idoliters here. You'll stir a hornet's nest.
105
posted on
11/18/2002 9:35:45 PM PST
by
Sparta
To: Grampa Dave
The Nazis started the bombing of innocent civilians when they invaded Poland and when they helped their Fascist buddies in Spain.Whoa, don't associate Spain with Nazi Germany. Franco saved Spain from communism. While Franco may had been ruthless, he was not a nazi or a communist. If I had my choice, I would fight for Franco rather than being a Loyalist during the Spanish Civil War.
Franco is arguably compared to Pinochet in Chile. Just what those countries needed.
To: Sparta
Careful. We have Franco idoliters here. You'll stir a hornet's nest.Too late. Look at post # 106
To: MadIvan
That German crap is so incredibly sick. I am beyond words. Maybe the nukes should have been used on Berlin.
To: LibKill
This goes way past revisionist history. It is Nazi revivalism.Which is illegal in Germany (freedom of speech? Ha!). Some Brits should get together and file a criminal complaint against the author and the editors of the magazine.
To: sheik yerbouty
It's already happening. Another treatment may someday be necessary. Blowhard Schroeder must be nuts. Also, the Russians will not humor any anschluss.Between us and the Russians, we can "treat" Germany inside of 20 minutes if the need ever arises.
To: MadIvan
In all fairness, the Germans have a point. No, I'm not calling Churchill a war criminal. But the fact is that the allied bombing campaign was deliberately intended to kill women and kids, and strike terror in the civilian population. Was it justified, given the horrible regime we were fighting? I personally wrestle with the answer to that one. We simply couldn't let the Nazis win, and I don't see how we could have prevented it without leveling entire cities in Germany and Japan. But that doesn't make the actual doing of it any the less horrific.
To: MadIvan
"I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears, and sweat... (and a can of whoop@$$ for those bloody Huns!)"
To: ccmay; Yehuda; Nachum
I wonder what my relatives would have said. Oh wait. The f*cking germans butchered the lot of them. Maybe a half dozen survived. Big prewar family. Nukes are too good for the Nazi scum. In the words of Jello Biafra (I am just too pissed to continue): Nazi Punks F*ck off! Hopefully Russia will take these a-hole Jerries to the cleaners.
To: ccmay
Delenda est Germania!
Alemania is the Spanish word for Germany, Germania is the Latin word for Germany as well as Italian. What is odd though, is that the italians call the germans Tedeschi, while the spanish for germans is alemanes. Have no clue where that came from.
114
posted on
11/18/2002 9:52:43 PM PST
by
Cacique
To: MadIvan
Oh, how I love that photo of Churchill! You do know the story behind it? The shooter was the legendary photographer Yousef Karsh; I believe he died recently. Well, after getting Churchill to agree to a sitting, the old man kept fidgeting and complaining and waving his cigar about, and just making Karsh's life difficult. Finally, in a happy blend of frustration and inspiration, Karsh reached over and snatched the cigar from Churchill's hand, then snapped the shutter. This is the face of a very powerful man who's just had his cigar snatched--or a very powerful baby who's just had his pacifier taken away.
A split-second later, Churchill got it. He realized what Karsh had done, and laughed, and was thoroughly cooperative for the rest of the session. Who cares? It's this portrait that the world remembers. It's got to be one of the most famous photos ever taken.
To: MadIvan
Lets back off a minute and see what we are dealing with.
This is an English newspaper article about a German tabloid's serialization of a history book.
The German tabloid, Das Bild, (The Picture)lives up to its name. It primary attraction is a revealing picture of a copiously endowed fraulein on the front page, below the fold, with statistics in case her charms are not evident enough from the picture. Das Bild is marginally more trustworthy than The National Enquirer.
I can tell you that right now German television is running a documentary on the SS which is unsparing it its presentation of the Hitler Time. Scarcely a week goes by without a similiar presentation on German television. To jump to a conclulion that such a history book represents mainstream thought in Germany is lecherlich.
Schröder's election shows that Germany,if anything, is suffering from a creeping, leftist, pacifist malaise which could not be further removed from a facist revival. Lets worry about something real, like why the Germans are more like the French than the English, instead of flying off the handle because of third hand reports contrived to get a rise out good honest Brits and Americans.
Comment #117 Removed by Moderator
To: nathanbedford
I'm not a German/hitler sympathizer but it is a pretty well known fact that Churchill escalated the bombing of cities to save the English air force!
Both wars were all about the conquest of Russia...the two front was supposed to be only one---east!
It was dirty from the start to the end...and that's what the germans think---cheating??
To: f.Christian
I'm not a German/hitler sympathizer but it is a pretty well known fact that Churchill escalated the bombing of cities to save the English air force! I think it is more accurate to say that in Sept 1940 Göring diverted the blitz from direct attacks on British aviation to British cities and this proved a fatal error which spared the British air force.
Both wars were all about the conquest of Russia...the two front was supposed to be only one---east!
Are you alluding to the widely held belief entertained in Germany during the war and afterwards that the Germans were waging war against eastern communism on behalf of the civilized world? The world had inexplicitly not appreciated the effort or the need for the effort but soon would. The memoirs of the German spy chief during and after the war are an example of this point of view.
To: MadIvan
Germans call Churchill a war criminalI wouldn't be suprised if they (German Neonazis) would soon deny they ever started any war.
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100, 101-120, 121-140 ... 181-188 next last
Disclaimer:
Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual
posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its
management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the
exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson