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The Free State Project: A Project for Idaho
Idaho Observer via Sierra Times ^ | 11/16/02 | Hari Heath

Posted on 11/18/2002 7:26:58 AM PST by Jack Black

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To: nopardons
Fringe parties crop up now and again, and they don't EVER get anywhere;

Fact, the Republican party was a "fringe" party at one point NP. Just an FYI.

EBUCK

421 posted on 11/20/2002 3:26:56 PM PST by EBUCK
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To: Poohbah
The margin of victory in most Congressional races exceeds 20,000 votes.

Nope. That really depends on the district. A lot of them are under 5000 votes, sometimes a lot less.
20,000 is a very big block to have in your corner.

422 posted on 11/20/2002 3:30:43 PM PST by watcher1
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To: CWRWinger
An exception to that is the "Homeland Security (tyranny) Bill

Did you see the vote count??? 90 - 9 in favor. That is bilateral if I ever seen it.....or should that be unilateral?

EBUCK

423 posted on 11/20/2002 3:32:52 PM PST by EBUCK
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To: Poohbah
Nonsense yourself. The margin of victory in most Congressional races exceeds 20,000 votes.

There sure were a lot of close ones here in Tennessee during this last election, with finger-biting going on in some precincts well past midnight.

But Tennessee isn't one of the states FSP has under consideration. S here's some info for you from one that is:

If you think your single vote can't make a difference, think again! In 1776, one vote resulted in Americans speaking English instead of German. In 1939, one vote passed the Selective Service Act. In Montana, some local elections have been decided by a single vote. In the 2000 presidential election, the margin of victory was so close that one more person voting in each precinct could have changed the outcome!

424 posted on 11/20/2002 3:33:50 PM PST by archy
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To: exodus
Wow!
You held'em off all by yourself!
I want to buy you a drink.

Free
                                                                              State Project

425 posted on 11/20/2002 3:34:19 PM PST by watcher1
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To: watcher1
I always find myself wondering how many of the anti-liberty posters work from taxpayer-funded computers.

Most of them. And this thread is typical

You mean the ones who've been FReepers for a couple of years, but don't have any bookmarks or personal info listed, and don't even fly their *state FReeper flag* on their profile page? Ah, yes.

Oh well. Just imagine the deals to be found as their tear-stained desks, swivel chairs and computers are auctioned off once they're RIFfed and their services are no longer needed. Help starve a feeding bureaucrat!

-archy-/-

426 posted on 11/20/2002 3:39:51 PM PST by archy
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To: archy
Welcome back!
I'll post the other one.
You ping'em
427 posted on 11/20/2002 3:40:33 PM PST by watcher1
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To: u-89
There are difficulties but I believe a conservative takeover of the Republican( and why not the Democrat too) party is possible. If there is a left wing conspiracy why not have one of our own. Im inspired by the Mossad motto in this "by way of deception we shall make war". Libertarians and conservatives are smarter than leftist they just have an organizational advantage because they are less individualistic. It can be done.
428 posted on 11/20/2002 3:53:29 PM PST by weikel
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To: Dead Dog
It might take a few more than 10K to turn that cesspool around.

Hell, there are close to 10K out in the streets every other day chanting peace songs and praising Gaia (sp?) and the other earth gods.

I think the propper approach is to surround and set a seige upon porlandistan, or push them up into Washington.

EBUCK
429 posted on 11/20/2002 4:09:59 PM PST by EBUCK
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To: EBUCK
We'd have to check the voting records, ie, how many voted for who. Block voting doesn't take anyting close to a majority, just have to cover the spread.
430 posted on 11/20/2002 4:13:42 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: The Green Goblin
"A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned -- this is the sum of good government." - Thomas Jefferson.

I added emphasis to another part of his quote, no less valid or important than your emphasis. (Personally, I'm more of a John Adams fan than a Jefferson fan.) Nevertheless, divining the intent of the Founding Fathers is dangerous for the Libertarian, because it's like divining the intent of those voters in Florida. This quote you cited somehow didn't make it into the Constitution, which was a group effort and the product of debate and compromise and finally mutual agreement among the group, as well as among the various state legislatures that ratified it. Look, the whole point here is that reasonable people can differ on interpretation. Just as we have a gazillion denominations because of differing interpretations of the Bible, so we have different political parties due to differing interpretations of the Constitution. As citizens, you and I are equals; we have all agreed to this system of government under the Constitution, and we have all agreed as to the methods of resolving our disagreements over interpretation--at the ballot box and through the Supreme court, which has appellate jurisdiction as to facts and law(with certain exceptions) under the Constitution.

431 posted on 11/20/2002 4:17:18 PM PST by wimpycat
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To: LexBaird
Maybe if they came one at a time.

A trickle would certainly help things.

What are all these pocupines intending to do for work,

In addition to bringing all of that capitol with them (most are financially secure) a lot of them would actually bring their businesses with them....jobs for ID's stagnant job market to soak up.

housing would hit a shortfall that would send prices sky high,

No argument from me on that point. I was in the market to buy a house when the Cali exodus hit Oregon.

They're idealists, which is worse.

Worse that socialists? I disagree. Without Idealists there would be no America, land of the free, home of the Brave, only another British colony.

EBUCK

432 posted on 11/20/2002 4:17:18 PM PST by EBUCK
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To: Dead Dog
Multnomah Co. Results, 2002 pretty sick.

EBUCK

433 posted on 11/20/2002 4:21:09 PM PST by EBUCK
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To: EBUCK
http://www.ncec.org/redistricting/district.phtml?district=or108#2002

your right, according to this link, District 3, by far the worst case would have taken 190K votes to turn to the GOP. That would be tough to do. State wide however, 10K voters would push the state. Better to leave districts 2 and 3 to rott, save the rest of the state.
434 posted on 11/20/2002 4:23:58 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: EBUCK
A mere 18K votes would have taken the state to GOP.
435 posted on 11/20/2002 4:26:09 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Dead Dog
Better to leave districts 2 and 3 to rott, save the rest of the state.

Exactly....Eugene is a prime candidate for colonization. Heavy percentage leans left but the numbers aren't all that difficult to overcome...

Lane County Results

And without Eugene, Portlands socialists are left with only one leg, to fall over on.

EBUCK

436 posted on 11/20/2002 4:31:48 PM PST by EBUCK
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To: Dead Dog
You mean for governor? Mannix was no conservative by any stretch of the imagination. That 18K means nothing, he got a lot of liberal votes and a lot of conservatives either didn't vote or voted third party simply becuause he is such a watered down candidate. I'm still waiting to see what a real conservative candidate, running under the GOP banner, could do here.

EBUCK
437 posted on 11/20/2002 4:34:42 PM PST by EBUCK
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To: EBUCK
Eugene is fine with me, I was born and raised there. Will High Class of 88 to be exact. That would make the Wild Duck the Operations HQ.

Is that Dist 4?

438 posted on 11/20/2002 4:38:03 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: EBUCK
Nah, Kulenwhatever won by 80K. What Oregon needs is a young Barry Goldwater in Jimmie Carter clothing.

There are endless angles a conservative could run and pick up the Oregon Dem. For instance, conservation backed by science disguised as environmentalism. Still conservative, yet has emotional appeal.

439 posted on 11/20/2002 4:43:37 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Dead Dog
Yah, district 4!!! Defuzzio's district (and you thought I was being altruistic didn't you? In Lebanon, he's my Rep too so I got a stake in this)

EBUCK
440 posted on 11/20/2002 4:45:31 PM PST by EBUCK
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