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To: madfly
I've been doing a lot of thinking about illegal aliens and the politicians whining about not having enough money, wanting to raise our taxes as a solution to the budget problems.


This just might be a solution. See if you like it.


Educate a couple of hundred young energetic people who feel American Patriotism is a finer character asset than Diversity is to an idea like this one. Then these people would need to go face to face with the residents of a small populated rural county and explain how it would work and benefit their them, their kids, and their grandkids.


Get the county population educated to the idea of electing a Sheriff who will go face to face with the Federal government. He is going to need legal advice on how to do all of this. Ideally we would want local attorneys or judges to provide this advice. Hey, before you run off...they have kids and grandkids too.


Get the Sheriff and County officials to go along with it is another subject. Just maybe you might be able to find someone who thinks as I do, that illegal aliens are parasites in America, and they could spread the idea amongst the citizens of the County. Then the citizens could write a petition to force the Council and Sheriff to follow their instructions. If we could get the Sheriff and local County officials of a lesser populated County with a budget deficit and normal high taxes to declare that all illegal aliens from every nation will be arrested and removed from the County in 30 or 60 days.


All assets not removed from the County must be assigned by the illegal alien to be sold with registered agents or they will be seized by the Sheriff and sold. These funds will be divided between the Sheriffs Office and the County budget official for expenses.


All people employing illegal aliens will also be arrested and fined. Perhaps $5000 per employee. This would prompt employers to demand that their employees bring in birth certificates, etc. This keeps the government out of our personal records any more than necessary.


The hiring of non citizens that have entered the US legally with the assistance of Immigration and Naturalization Services will of course be encouraged. Only the hiring of illegal aliens will be reason for arrest and stiff fines.


Perhaps ads could be placed in the newspapers of the surrounding counties to obtain legal workers for the farm, ranch, gas station local K-Mart to replace the ones who are leaving. A local 800 number could be updated daily with jobs available in the County.


All people giving aid or care to illegal aliens will also be arrested and fined. This would include illegal aliens who are family members.


This will result in no or very few illegal aliens going to the local hospitals for medical attention. The hospital will start making money instead of heading into bankruptcy.


This will bring welfare for illegal aliens to a screeching halt. This alone will do much for the local budget.


School districts would require much less money because the new residents in the county would certainly be more able to speak English.

Imagine what that would do to surrounding Counties with a similar budget deficit. Do you think it might prompt them to do a similar actions? Do you think it might convince the State officials when enough Counties have adopted these measures that we citizens are serious in our desire to protect our communities from being over run by illegal aliens?

I think half a dozen community residents that are involved in the legal system and the business community could work out what to do to make an idea similar to this work in their community.






For the legal minded folks I have included a statement from one of the cases that made it through the Supreme Court. Unless there are State laws forbidding such actions as I have suggested, I think everything legally is above the table. A local judge could give the Sheriff advice on how to handle the little tweak of the laws.


The federal Gov't may neither issue directives requiring the States to address particular problems, nor command State' officers, or those of their political subdivisions, to administer or enforce a federal regulatory program. It matters not whether policy making is involved, and no case by case weighing of the burdens or benefits is necessary; such commands are fundamentally incompatible with our constitutional system of dual sovereignty.


Justice Antonin Scalia, Mack vs US., June 27, 1997







The way I see it is that given the opportunity and enough notice to move their families safely, the illegal aliens would pack up and leave rather than fight a Sheriff who is broadcasting that just because the Feds aren't going to enforce the immigration laws doesn't mean he isn't.


Employers would rather make a company policy that all employees must prove that they are American citizens or in the United States legally than be fined $5000 for supporting open border policy. Give employers a chance to advertise for critical employees who are currently illegal aliens so their businesses don't suffer a drastic skill shortage.


Just as an add on, I imagine that the local crime rates would be continually dropping until it reached an acceptable level.


Surrounding rural counties would surely catch on quickly to the benefits and start similar programs. All it would take is one newspaper article about the city council needing money for some public service. There is much more rural county land in the US than cities in county land.


I imagine that it wouldn't take too long before cities would simply not be able to afford to support all the illegals who are on taxpayer paid benefits. Consequently, like it or not they would have to fall in line.

I have no idea how fast an idea such as this would spread and actually take firm hold causing neighboring state legislators to look at the idea BEFORE their state was swamped with illegal aliens and the taxpayers rose up demanding immediate solutions. The crime rate amongst illegals is very high as it is. A plan such a this could send it through the ceiling.


This would be dangerous because it would foster hate and anger. Too much of that would result in radicals bringing out their guns chasing the illegals out of their neighborhoods. We have seen gang wars and the resulting violence, this would be worse. So, it would have to be a slow, calm, well organized plan in each county! Our intention is to bring the population of our neighborhoods into patriotic, law abiding folks not to be ravaged by foreigners who have nowhere to go. So eventually, I can see where states would have to cough up the funds and or transportation for the people to get back to Norway, Brazil, Australia, Japan and China.


If we tried to let the Feds handle it, they would fiddle fart around like they been doing and the problem would never be solved. So, the way I see this, the STATES are going to have to stand up after too many years on our knees to the self determined big shots in the Federal Legislative and the Federal Agencies. We need to show them that we'll fix the problem ourselves.


The first States to do this emigration plan will encounter the least expenses. Of course I would expect it to happen, if it ever does, in Western States.



Notice the direction of travel in this definition.


emigration


Em`i*gra"tion, n. [L. emigratio: cf. F. ['e]migration.] 1. The act of emigrating; removal from one country or state to another, for the purpose of residence, as from Europe to America, or, in America, from the Atlantic States to the Western.


http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=emigration&db=*


Lets change the worlds idea of where to emigrate from and to! We have given education and work experience to millions of illegal aliens. Now lets give them a chance to see if they can do it for themselves back home!!!


If you think this might work......ping some FR friends to see what they think of it.

Why not email friends with this idea and see if we can't get it started. Of course there will surely need to be modifications to initialize it and perhaps different ideas to promote it. Each County is slightly different and we don't want extreme radicals promoting it or else it will surely sink into oblivion.
8 posted on 11/18/2002 7:45:36 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
Good idea. Don't know if it is feasible? We are in different states.

Educate a couple of hundred young energetic people who feel American Patriotism is a finer character asset than Diversity is to an idea like this one. Then these people would need to go face to face with the residents of a small populated rural county and explain how it would work and benefit their them, their kids, and their grandkids.

Right off the bat, I think this project would require the help of the homeschooling community. The young people on College Campuses are deluded by liberal diversity and PC-madness.

10 posted on 11/18/2002 8:00:51 AM PST by madfly
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To: B4Ranch
I think you have a crackerjack idea there.

There have got to be many ways, large and small, this could be accomplished. We could do what you suggested - although Ibelieve that then the federal and state governments would decide they could use the military or national guard against us. That is something we would have to know is in the realm of possibility.

I think just a good old fashioned boycott of one industry at a time that is heavy into illegals. Just stop buying one particular product - lettuce or produce unless you know where and how it is produced. Do you know you can live without fresh produce? We did when I was young, in the winter. You can live without eating chicken (now much healthier), etc. I think if we chose one industry at a time, let others know it would be their turn next, it might work.

Now it would have to be coupled with your idea also - except as I said, be prepared for government intervention. Whether we like to admit it or not, our state governments, in some instances, are just extensions of the federal government.

Isn't it illegal to employ illegals? I thought it was. IF so, why don't we also begin reporting all these people. If the INS or whatever agency is involved got thousands and thousands of tips.

Also, how about reporting some of these people to the IRS. I mean the actual employees. You know most don't pay taxes. This would have to be someone who could get to know these people - but that's not too hard to to in a small town. Just report them to the IRS. Probably nothing will be done, as I am assuming the IRS is protecting them - but what if someone was done.

Do you remember when the state of Texas was considering suing the federal government because of the increased cost of educating the illegals in border schools? What ever happened to that? I think that is when Texas passed the Robin Hood bill.

I actually think, however, the amnesty bill is going to be pushed through congress so fast you better not blink because I think President Bush knows the people are fed up and the elections are over and he can do what he likes. People have short memories and they will forget by 2004.

Great idea and well conceived.

Don't you live in Texas? What part? Just generally speaking--

13 posted on 11/18/2002 8:06:36 AM PST by nanny
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To: B4Ranch
Educate a couple of hundred young energetic people who feel American Patriotism is a finer character asset than Diversity is to an idea like this one. Then these people would need to go face to face with the residents of a small populated rural county and explain how it would work and benefit their them, their kids, and their grandkids.

Quite an idea. It brings to my mind the thought of a task force for education and support to go in and unify a single county bringing together as many residents of that county as possible. Working on all levels at the same time to build a cohesive front to sweep away all obstacles and opposition.

Uncle Sam would be hard pressed to lay a heavy hand on the residents, LE and attorneys of an entire county in this age of the media eye. 40,000 FReepers could watch every move, not to mention the larger internet community. Backup, in the form of massive protests, could be right at hand.

It sounds like something to think about.

24 posted on 11/18/2002 5:19:52 PM PST by TigersEye
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