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To: hscott
"Well to review, I said that the libertarian position on US foreign policy was similar or identical to that of the Left.And I provided quotes from Harry Browne to support this. He says that our foreign policy is "insane" and that the 9/11 attacks are a result of American "bullying."I ask you does this sound similar to the Left or not?

No. The difference is that the Left is STILL saying we shouldn't retaliate for 9/11. AFAIK, no libertarian has taken that position. Your postings from Brown do NOT illustrate the fundamental difference between the libertarian position and leftist pacifism. Leftist pacifists say ANY war is morally wrong. Libertarians say a defensive war is morally OK

"To suppose that, if we just become less aggressive that the Muslims will love us is a delusion. Dude, they want to conquer the world and convert it to Islam."

And of course, this is true.

84 posted on 11/18/2002 1:57:24 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
Well OK - heres from Harry Browne website

"When will we learn that "teaching someone a lesson" never teaches anything but resentment – that it only inspires the recipient to greater acts of defiance." Here he was discussiong Reagan's attack on Libya.

"Second, resolve that we won't let our leaders use this occasion[ie 9/11] to commit their own terrorist acts upon more innocent people – foreign and domestic – that will inspire more terrorist attacks in the future."

"Find Osama bin Laden, capture him, and try him in America. He must have a fair trial – consistent with the rules of evidence and the Bill of Rights. If he's killed without a trial, he'll become a martyr throughout the Muslim world – creating hundreds of millions more anti-Americans who will support future acts of terrorism. If he isn't really behind the 9-11 attacks, killing him without a fair trial terminates the hunt for the real criminal – leaving us in danger. So prosecute anyone who shoots him on sight."

"Declare an end to the so-called War on Terrorism. Call it a victory, a defeat, or an armistice. But quit acting as though it's an excuse to invade any country or take away our civil liberties."

"The terrorist attacks are a criminal matter, not a war"

"Because the September attacks were a crime, the government's job is to locate and bring to trial any perpetrators who didn't die in the attacks. If some of them are located in foreign countries, our government should request extradition — not threaten to bomb the foreign country if we don't get our way."

There are many more such quotes but I think it can fairly be said that Browne's only response to 9/11 would be to treat it as a case of breaking and entering. He wants to "request extradition." I think it is fair to say that Browne opposes any military response whatever to 9/11. We are just supposed to post mug shots of UBL in all the post offices.

IMHO this is severely delusional. It would amount to a simple surrender to the Jihad. And it would prevoke even more attacks by revealing us to be weak.

It is sad when an obviously intelligent man like Browne is so seduced by his own libertarian dogma that he fails to see what is so obvious to the janitors, the mechanics, the truck drivers and just about everyone else.

90 posted on 11/18/2002 2:38:18 PM PST by hscott
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