[kidao35]

This has to be the WORST misinformation I have EVER seen regarding firearms from the BATF.

A Garand machine gun?!! First there are no full auto parts available for these, AND if there were, what good is a MG that only holds 8 rounds?

An M1 carbine firing armor piercing ammo? If they ever made AP in 30 carbine, that's news to me

They already have bans on the importation and sale of AP ammo. And what little there is left in the civilian market can just as easily be shot from ANY 30-06 hunting rifle.

And any rifle that fires .223 and above can slice through a soft vest anyway.

Does anyone here besides me find it offensive that its OK to be sent halfway around the world to potentially die on foreign soil carrying one of these rifles, but can't be trusted with them back in the good old USA?

Does anyone here find it disgraceful that an importer can bring in swastika marked K98 Mausers, but can't bring back an M1 Garand?

I'm sending letters to my Congressmen, President Bush, the NRA, and the VFW about this. Absolutely disgusting.

And further proof the FBI needs to take over gun law enforcement policy, and put the BATF back to its original role of REVENUE COLLECTION!

This is a fight we gun owners can win, and can be our 'Battle of Midway' on the long road to the repeal of the AW ban!

[Sparta]

The potential universe, a 1998 federal report says, includes more than 950,000 Garand rifles, more than 1.2 million M-1 carbines and nearly 300,000 M-1911 pistols.

That's a lot of weapons to arm a new Home Guard with. (If we can get them all to fire.)

[toddst]

This is a fight we gun owners can win, and can be our 'Battle of Midway' on the long road to the repeal of the AW ban!

Thanks for the post. Agree with you 100%. More good reasons to do away with the BATF.

[error99]

The author(s) of this article are either ignorant, or deliberately misleading the readers.

Aside from the inaccuracies about auto vs. semi auto and armor piercing rounds, maybe I am mistaken, but it seems to me that last time I went out shopping, these items are already available on the shelves. I'd be in the market, but they are just too expensive for me.

[daapfe]

Dam I have been waiting for a cheaper Garand but now thank you ATF..Guess i will have to go bankrupt to get one..
GOVERNMENT BITES

[coloradan]

The New York Slimes neglected to mention that through the Civilian Marksmanship Program, us peasants can go through only a few hoops (and shell out ~$500-600) and the U.S. Government will send a fully functional M-1 Garand through the U.S. Mail to our doors.

[AngryOne]

Amen. No Government "of the people and by the people" would ever fear it's citizens being armed... yet here we are.

No more compromises, no more deals, no more infringement.

Assault weapons rule, government sucks, long live Jefferson.

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

Does anyone find it ironic law-abiding Americans are not supposed to own M-1 Garand rifles but it was OK to hand over to the Chinese all of the technology to build long-range ICBM's with MIRV warheads capable of killing millions of Americans whose government developed and was supposed to prevent the export of those weapons of mass destruction?

The average American can be trusted to safely handle weapons. The government cannot be trusted with any weapons.

We need to kick Chinese Nationals out of our secret weapons labs. Yes, we have Chinese citizens working inside our most secret facilities. Our treasonous government is the greatest danger to us - not old Garand rifles.

[pgobrien]

As a Veteran and current Guard member....I agree. I find it offensive that we can use them to defend people who probably hate us.....but we are not trusted with the weapons in the USA. Typical BATF baffle-gab.

[ezo4]

bang

[templar]

I have a hard time picturing a gang banger with a garand stuffed in his pocket.

Wonder why the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms people never object to the importing of foreign liquor because some of it will end up causing drunk driving deaths?

[spunkets]

Bush could fire the bozos responsible for this action. I would.

[lodwick]

bttt

[RLK]

The BATF has, over the years, employed and accumulated a grpup of overzelous left wing dingbats to work there.

[Lurker]

A friend of mine had a couple of cases of black tip .30 carbine ammo of Korean War vintage.

We shot it all up though.

L

[Ground0]

News Flash: the BATF wants to ban ANY type of firearm no matter how old or outdated. As a matter of fact, they want to ban toy guns as well. Makes me wonder what the hell they'll do with themselves if successful.

Makes me shudder.

[Dan Cooper]

Sarco's Web site draws attention to a new feature: "Machine Gun Dave's Machine Gun Page," where the top item is a 1928 Colt commercial water-cooled tripod listed for $1,250.

Jeff and Richard obviously didn't click through and see that what is for sale is just the tripod. It must be pretty scary to NYT readers that a water-cooled machine gun tripod is within the reach of anyone with $1,250.

[caltrop]

How is this possible with George W. Bush, that well known supporter of the 2nd Amendment, in the White House? (sarcasm)

[Springman]

Bump for later.

[agitator]

I had a fat-assed, ATF inspector tell me once that ATF didn't like the fact that people didn't have to sign for ammunition anymore. The alleged reason was that "why, a dealer could be selling ammunition to children *and we'd never know.*"

This guy was the epitome of the offensive, officious, self-important bureaucrat with an attitude. Always remember that the majority of Nazis weren't goose-stepping stormtroopers, they were petty bureaucrats who used to be some dolt that lived next door.

[12.7x99mm]

I get my ap from this dude
http://www.patsreloading.com/patsrel/prices.htm
he has 30cal and 50cal its surlpus pulled ammo and it shoots just fine
I havent been on the site for awhile cause I by in bulk :-)