Uncle Ali: Palestinian Moslem, Gnostic, Nazi, Mentor and Friend

astrologyforthepeople.com ^ | October 01, 2002 | Holger Werner

[Destro]

Islam's origins among the Gnostic heresies of the late Roman Empire is an under explored item.

In addition to this article by the German/Arab Holger Werner (I can't figure out which) whose web site praises Hitler, Hess, The Nazi worshiping occult Process Church and the Nazi party (he damns Himmler as the real villain of the Holocaust, Hitler was a victim of Himmler and Hess- a Gnostic saint, was out to save the world from Himmler and the fooled Hitler, etc.).

You will note that the authors uncle (if claims he makes are true) was an Arab Palestinian SS officer. Islam and Nazism's Gnostic origins and views are linked.

The links to the Nazi's the Muslims and to the Gnostic occult which has always been the great threat to Europe from the Bogomils/Cathars to Islam to Secular Socialism:

Read also on FreeRepublic: The Great and Enduring Heresy of Mohammed by the Catholic historian Hilaire Belloc.

"EN TOUTO NIKA"

[Destro]

The Arab/Muslim Nazi Connection Bosnian Moslems recruited the Nazi SS by Yasser Arafat's 'Uncle'

Himmler's Bosnian Division the Waffen - SS Handschar Division 1943-1945

HIMMLER WAS THEIR DEFENDER The above headline appeared in Sarajevo Muslim's weekly magazine, "Svijet". The original, "Bosnian" language headline was "Himmler ih je stitio."

[Destro]

The Arab/Muslim Nazi Connection Bosnian Moslems recruited the Nazi SS by Yasser Arafat's 'Uncle'

Himmler's Bosnian Division the Waffen - SS Handschar Division 1943-1945

HIMMLER WAS THEIR DEFENDER The above headline appeared in Sarajevo Muslim's weekly magazine, "Svijet". The original, "Bosnian" language headline was "Himmler ih je stitio."

[Asclepius]

... The fact is that, just as in National Socialism, the Zionist movement was splintered and split in opinion of how to bring about the planned nation of Israel on Palestinian territory. Eastern European Zionists were in favor of cooperation with German National Socialism, even to the point of willingness to fight with Germany during the second World War to insure German victory since Germany had promised, if not guaranteed, that Israel would be established for the Jews after the war was over ...

Congratulations. This "article" is perhaps the vilest, most horrendous, most grimmly anti-Jewish historical revisionism I have ever, ever seen posted on FR.

You must be very, very proud of yourself.

[Destro]

You did not read my warning did you? It's at the top and they are my own words:

The author of this autobiography Holger Werner is clearly an occultist Neo-Nazi with radical Islamic roots and his views of history are evilly skewed by this fact. He praises as true the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" for example and the Arabs this month of Ramadan are airing that proven garbage as a multi part miniseries in the Arab world. Please remember I post this only to illuminate the threat to Western civilization posed by these groups and I hope my effort at an explanation for posting it is satisfactory.

Apology in order by you to me I think.

[Destro]

This article is exactly what nazi-muslims think. Posting it is to inform us of their warped evil views not an endorsement. How can one understand a threat without knowing its wared views?

THIS WHAT THE MUSLIM ENEMY THINKS AND WE SHOULD KNOW IT.

Hide your head in the sand if you want.

[Destro]

This article is exactly what nazi-muslims think. Posting it is to inform us of their warped evil views not an endorsement of them. How can one understand a threat without knowing its wared warped views?

THIS WHAT THE MUSLIM ENEMY THINKS AND WE SHOULD KNOW IT.

Hide your head in the sand if you want.

[Asclepius]

... Posting it is to inform us of their warped evil views not an endorsement ...

Your alibi contradicts itself. Accepting a link between these groups or belief systems--as you claim--means accepting the author's claims on their face. Which means you accept his claims on their face.

[tictoc]

Ugly stuff, but it's necessary to know about what goes on in the minds of dangerous crazies.

Thanks for taking the trouble to post it.

[Destro]

What are you mentally deficient? And if I post from the Koran where Allah directs his followers to kill the unbelievers to show the nature of the enemy does that mean I endorse the friggin Koran? How else can I show the nature of the enemy?

[Destro]

Thank you. Maybe you could explain it to Asclepius. I hope it is clear posting these views is not an endorsement.

I found a first hand account of a Muslim link to Nazis and to the Gnostics/New Age movement, and I thought it was worth seeing how the evil is linked.

[Destro]

Dude, thanks.

[Asclepius]

... What are you mentally deficient? And if I post from the Koran where Allah directs his followers to kill the unbelievers to show the nature of the enemy does that mean I endorse the friggin Koran? How else can I show the nature of the enemy? ...

Posting from the Koran to make your case would have perfectly legitimate. But you didn't do that. And you miss the distinction, and it is a critical distinction. The article you posted bases its claims about the so-called relationships among the groups that you want to say are related on grounds of Nazi-Zionist collaboration, on grounds of concentration camps ravaged by disease instead of Zyklon B and gas ovens, on the notion that the Nazis were simply the good-hearted, mis-guided dupes of Himmler, on the notion that RACE is the determining factor in world history. For you to buy into the one notion, you have to buy into the other.

If you deny the authors grounds, you deny the author's claims, in which case you deny your own claims, so why bother posting the article? Find other, more factual grounds to make your claim, or simply admit that it was your intention to post white-power-identity propaganda on FR in the guise of an anti-Muslim rant.

[dennisw]

Before you say stupid things you ought to check out Destro's posting history. This is how you know what someone is up to. You obviously failed to do this before going into kamikazi mode. At this point I don't care about your self-justifications. You are dead wrong about him.

GOOD-BYE!

[Asclepius]

... You are dead wrong about him ...

Apparently not, as Destro himself admits.

[Destro]

I do not buy the author's premise. It only shows that he and others like him do accept that view as fact. Is not the Koran the ravings of a Gnostic influences lone nut? That you can think otherwise is your problem.

The Protocols of Zion was a forgery cooked up by the Czar's secret police to defame Jews. It failed to be accepted in Russia but gained acceptance in post WW1 Germany/Austria. Kaiser Billy himself paid for its publication and via the Nazis it has spread to the Arabs.