Oh Lord, they're at it again. This is so disgusting. I am getting so depressed. But I faxed and will call and do my bit. The fact that they would even consider this shows how far our country has fallen.
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To: Issaquahking
BTTT -
42 posted on
11/16/2002 3:11:54 PM PST by
isasis
To: Carry_Okie; AuntB; AAABEST; farmfriend
BTTT they are at it still - Big one this time Hope we can do something about this one
43 posted on
11/16/2002 3:19:21 PM PST by
isasis
To: Justanumba
New boss...same as the old boss.
To: Justanumba
Thanks for the tip, I`ll send an email now and call Monday. In these fiscally tight times, this kind of expensive radical eco-crap is criminal.
47 posted on
11/16/2002 5:33:39 PM PST by
nomad
To: Justanumba
I need to know, in a general sense (not individual pork grabs) WHY Republican politicians would consider legislation like this. The scumbag Democrats I understand - - they strive relentlessly for a politically correct, socialist ant-farm nation, with government owning and controlling everything. But aren't Republicans supposed to go the other way?
Thanks in advance to anybody who can explain rationally why Republicans would support legislation like this, and why Bush would sign it.
To: Justanumba
This is outrageous!! I'll contact my Congresscritters ASAP.
This next week I'm attending a "Land Grab" seminar. I'm sure this will be discussed.
To: Justanumba
Wouldn't do me any good. DeWine (RINO-OH) thinks CARA is a great idea because of all the money it will bring to Ohio.
51 posted on
11/16/2002 6:34:15 PM PST by
WriteOn
To: Justanumba; Carry_Okie; Grampa Dave; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; ...
S.990, The American Wildlife Enhancement Act
By Senator Mike Crapo, (R-Idaho) The U.S. Senate recently passed S. 990, better known as the American Wildlife Enhancement Act. The Act will protect private property rights by involving citizens, and state and local entities while expanding opportunities for wildlife protection. Unfortunately, some have sought to compare S 990 to a bill I voted againstthe Conservation and Reinvestment Act (CARA) S 990 , as opposed to CARA, does not seek to acquire land through condemnation or federal purchases of private property. It gives landowners and state local control over wildlife and habitat issues under the model of the time-tested Pittman-Robertson grant program supported by sportsmen and sporting groups nationwide. And I will fight against any attempts to link the two bills in a conference committee.
Critics confusingly call S 990 Son of CARA, an erroneous characterization of the bill. I voted against CARA, but support S 990 because it brings needed stature to states rights and private property rights by providing money directly to states and private landowners for relief from the unfunded mandates of the Endangered Species Act. States and citizens can address wildlife and habitat needs in their way, not the federal governments. S 990 provides compensation to property owners for improving habitat on their land.
Here are the facts:
- No Federal Land Acquisition: S 990 contains no provision for federal purchase of private property. State land acquisition is already only done under limited circumstances, and S 990 makes those restrictions even tougher. Between 1991 and 2001, less than five percent of the Pittman-Robertson fund, the existing law under which these programs will be implemented, was used for land acquisition; none of this was federal. S 990 is an authorization bill, and funding must be debated annually by Congress to ensure that the legislation is achieving its goals of protection private property rights and improving habitat. No Outer Continental Shelf revenues are used to fund this bull.
- No Land Condemnation: There is no provision, as critics charge, that the government can grab your land for any reason. S 990 does not contain the word condemnation and does not authorize land condemnation.
- State and Local Controls: S 990 moves decision-making away from federal control to state leaders, local citizens and property owner. It adds new revenue so states and landowners can improve habitat for both game and non-game species, and rightfully moves those land-use decisions to the state and local levels.
- Help for Private Property Owners: Through compensation for habitat improvement in S 990, private property owners who might otherwise face federal regulations and threats from the federal government will have new and critical financial assistance. If a property owner wants to let land lie fallow for wildlife, he can be paid to do so. If a property owner wants to plant willows to aid salmon recovery, he can now do so and be paid for it. Too often in the past, the government has expected habitat improvement at private expense. S 990 requires local consultation, which will result in local support for improved and compensated habitat for wildlife and threatened or endangered species.
My record in Congress includes attempts to get direct financial payments to private property owners who suffer a loss in property valuation due to threats from federal agencies over endangered species or other wildlife issues. That bill did not pass, but this measure has the critical bi-partisan support to push relief for landowners closer to reality.
- Limits On Who Is Involved: S 990 carries specific language barring funding for any effort that seeks to promote an anti-hunting or trapping agenda.
- Who Can Buy Land: Of the bills four titles, land acquisition is authorized in just two titles. In Title I, states and territories of the United States are the only entities eligible to acquire property for the purpose of wildlife conservation. Title III allows a state to purchase land to conserve fish, wildlife, recreational or ecological resources with the caveat that the state has collaborated with the public, and local communities and individuals support the acquisition. Now conservation or environmental group any use the funds in this bill to acquire property.
- No Federal Reviews: Opponents argue that S 990 exempts state and local activities from review by the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA). Yes, that is the point: keep federal agencies and bureaucrats out of the process, allowing states to control how wildlife conservation dollars are spent in their areas. This bill puts funding in the hands of states and property owners and others who are interested to assist in wildlife conservation and related efforts.
My voting record regarding private property rights and states rights is very solid and I have worked closely and successfully with private property advocacy groups in shaping several pieces of federal legislation.
My support of S 990 is heavily influenced by my belief in the power of collaboration. I have long believed that resolution of environmental and resource conflicts will be based on the degree of real collaboration between state, local, and federal agencies enormous conflict. Decisions made with authoritative participation by those who live closest to the area of concern succeed with public support.
Most believe that the basic objectives of the Endangered Species Act, and other similar federal Acts are well intended. However, the fact is that the implementation of these laws is often heavy-handed, usually unilateral, and rarely successful, can be dangerous to private property rights, and is highly influenced by political agendas that go far beyond the objectives of original legislation. State and local governments, and especially private citizens, are put on the defensive and have few, if any, resources with which to either fight federal initiatives or pay for their implementation. S 990 provides resources and a structure with which these groups can either manage local situations or prevent federal action. Under this bill, we will have some resources to initiate action rather than constantly be reactive and defensive.
S 990 is a grant program to put states, local governments, sporting and conservation groups, and property owners looking to assist wildlife in chare of issues regarding wildlife and endangered species. I remain committed to private property and states rights, and the fact is that this legislation strengthens both.
To: Justanumba
The fact that they would even consider this shows how far our country has fallen. Don't worry, everything will be fine now, nothing like you've described could ever happen now that they, the less tax, smaller, less intrusive government Republicans are in charge.
To: Clinton Is Scum; norton; Under the Radar; BrowningBAR; IllegalAliensOUT; Slip18; Teacher317; ...
Action alert!
58 posted on
11/17/2002 3:51:54 AM PST by
madfly
To: Justanumba
Writing them is the same as the colonists sending England petitions of grievance.
IT WILL DO NO GOOD.
They are blatantly stealing American's land and Freedoms. And You have as much chance of talking a thief out of taking your wallet as You do asking these bastards to respect the Rights You mistakingly believe You have.
I think Patrick Henry said it best :
" Gentlemen may cry , Peace , Peace - but there is no peace.
The war is actually begun !
The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms !
Our brethren are already in the fields !
Why stand we here idle ?
What is it that gentlemen wish ?
What would they have ?
Is life so dear , or peace so sweet , as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery ?
Forbid it , Almighty God !
I KNOW WHAT OTHERS MAY TAKE , BUT AS FOR ME , GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH !!!
Well look around " American's " it appears that FREEDOM has become too inconveinent for "American's " to fight for.
They would rather whine about it to the ones that would ( will ) enslave them , and run off to murder innocent people for their jailers PROFIT.
I guess as long as we're killing someone , it makes us feel like "American's " , even if it's the wrong people.
You are accepting your childrens slavery , because You are afraid to face the enemy...............
66 posted on
11/17/2002 5:13:20 PM PST by
Eustace
To: All
bump if you're outraged!
70 posted on
11/18/2002 6:40:00 AM PST by
madfly
To: Justanumba
To Pennsylvanians: I just called both Santorum and Specter's offices and spoke to staffers. When I mentioned S. 990, Santorum's staffie asked me what that was. Then he told me that the senator hadn't made any decision about it yet. I could hear him typing notes as we were speaking. I told him we used to laugh at the Soviet Union because they insisted all property was owned by the government, and now in America we are encouraging transfer of private property to the government. I told him the government has too much land now.
The girl I spoke with at Specters office didn't seem to have a clue. She told me he hadn't made his mind up yet, but I don't believe her. I asked her to request that he put a hold on the bill. We should probably call Lott also.
I called the 800-648-3615 number to the Capitol. I'm going to send faxes shortly.
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