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To: Iowegian
Jorge"I said that blaming "homos, pagans and feminists" as being ultimately responsible for the terrorist attacks and thus the deaths of 3,000 of Americans is a hateful thing to say."

That is not what Falwell said or meant, but how many took it - hearing what they wanted to hear.

Nonsense. Here is the quote;

Falwell;

"The pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way - all of them who have tried to secularize America," Falwell continued, "I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.'"

"Well, I totally concur," responded Robertson.

[Sunday September 16 03:13 PM EDT
Falwell Suggests Gays to Blame for Attacks By Marc Ambinder ABCNEWS.com ]

________________ Falwell later apologized for these remarks.

146 posted on 11/15/2002 8:53:42 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge
Throughout history and Scripture, God frequently allows evil to conquer evil. Repeatedly, God will provide grace to the repentant and shine the opportunity for a relationship with Him on all, but historically, man, both individually and in groups has fallen to reject Him. Not all men, but many have fallen.

Consider Sodom and Gomorah, wherein Lot bartered for the sake of 50 men, then 5 men concerning the condemnation of the city. Beware, for He not only judges individually, but also consequence may befall groups who fail to follow Him.

I agree with the comments made and/or implied that perhaps the WTC attack may have been allowed in part because of past and current heinous activity in America. Evil is frequently allowed to conquer evil. This doesn't mean one evil is implicitly less evil.

God created the institution of nationality witht the tower of Babel. There is nothing wrong in defending ourselves as a nation. Accordingly when the US is attacked as in the WTC, of course we are to defend ourselves. This doesn't mean we only defend ourselves independent of God. If we did so, we would simply be as evil as those who attacked us.

151 posted on 11/16/2002 3:05:36 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: Jorge
Now show me in that quote where he states (as you asserted) that the Islamic terrorists who flew the planes - were not ultimately responsible. You can't do it, because that isn't what he meant. One more thing, what was your opinion of Falwell before his 9/11 statements? Good, bad or ugly?
155 posted on 11/16/2002 5:43:51 AM PST by Iowegian
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