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To: donozark
This article is 100% unadulterated owl shit. Drug testing was implimented in 1971, at the peak of it's alleged "useage." 4.2% of GIs tested positive. Source:UNHERALDED VICTORY by Mark Woodruff. Drug use was no higher in VN than back on the block. Another myth perpetuated by the left. Zero GIs (or at most ONE) defected to the enemy. If drug use was so prevalent among GIs, far more would have "gone native" or crossed over to the enemy.

Agree. In two years I served with a total of 600 shipmates in my naval air squadron based ashore in Vietnam. A few were found to be using drugs, but so few we hardly noticed their departure. Not a flight was missed; not a mission lost to "drug abuse." "The Drug Horror of Vietnam" is just one more tired Left Lie to help them justify their cowardice, self-hatred, and anti-Americanism.


13 posted on 11/15/2002 12:15:38 PM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice
The detailed statistics are impressive,ie, true or fabricated someone went to a lot of trouble to put them together. I was so damn protected at Tan Son Nhut by USAF security that I would not have know about drug problems outside of my unit. I supervised 20 some very technical AF NCO's and Officers. I worked with almost a hundred others. With one exception,a young black Airman clerk typist, I never suspected any drug use. This from a Siagon warrior. Howsomever,booze was a problem,including me and my NCOIC. I ran it off every day. Does anyone know about this "Vietnam" mag?
14 posted on 11/15/2002 1:28:33 PM PST by larryjohnson
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To: pabianice
I would note also how author puts heroin problem on the shoulders of Vietnam vets. Foolishness. Heroin was already a problem in major cities of USA. Author also states "...Vietnam veteran addicts became a problem in the United States." No, ALL addicts became (and still are) a problem in the United States.

Rate of addiction/incarceration NO higher for VN vets than their peer group. Studies have shown however, that VN vets received longer sentencing for similar crimes. Probably due to pogrom launched against VN vets by media, intelligensia, and even pols. One of whom, Ron "the Red" Dellums threatened to hold war crime trials for VN vets!

All here should read STOLEN VALOR. Authors spent TEN years researching all the "hype" surrounding VN vets. Disabused most of it. I trust the conclusions of BG Burkett, Glenna Whitley FAR more than this "magazine."

16 posted on 11/16/2002 5:59:56 AM PST by donozark
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To: pabianice; larryjohnson; PeterPrinciple; cav68; Squantos; Jeff Head; Travis McGee; harpseal
I saw enough hard core usage in the year I was there to last a life time. Most that I saw was at the isolated little FSB, as that is where I spent most of my tour, but also in base camps such as Long Binh. The worst was snorting herion. Ever see what it does to a nose? Lots of guys would buy the herion in little plastic vials about as big as the end of my index finger. They would pour some in a cigarette and smoke it. Not many mainliners. There was one in our HHB who tried to kill the Battalion Surgeon when he changed the locks for the syringe cabinets. The guy was caught red handed with a frag he had pulled the pin on. I drove the jeep taking him to LBJ.

Was there problem drug usage? I would say so. No one has even mentioned the problems we had in Germany in the 70's. I saw NCO's shoved out of barracks windows in wall lockers. My first night at Fishbach Depot in 1975 I had to barracade myself in a room with a bunk and locker and even then the "natives" tried to force the door open for what seemed like half the night. We had a gate guard murdered as he had stumbled on a drug deal. The CQ and SDO all were armed for self protection. IMHO this was almost worse than Vietnam.
17 posted on 11/16/2002 6:17:29 AM PST by SLB
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