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San Francisco Democrats Take Over: Who'll Leave First?
NewsMax ^ | 11/15/02 | Wes Vernon

Posted on 11/15/2002 10:12:57 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

WASHINGTON – Now that San Francisco Democrat Nancy Pelosi has been elected House minority leader, she has moved swiftly to try to head off any conservative Democrat defections to the GOP. NewsMax has pinpointed the logical contenders if any switch to the Republicans result from Pelosi’s far-left leadership.

Pelosi promised to reach out to party conservatives and moderates. In an obvious gesture in that direction, she immediately chose as her assistant leader Rep. John Spratt of South Carolina.

Based on his voting record, the American Conservative Union gives Congressman Spratt a lifetime favorable rating of a paltry 27 percent. That at least surpasses Pelosi’s own nearly invisible 2 percent.

The South Carolinian, second-ranking member of the House Armed Services Committee, has worked with Republicans on some matters. But the Almanac of American Politics cites his leading role in the “first significant defeat of a Contract for America promise in the Republican House” in 1995. That was when he successfully engineered an amendment to water down the Strategic Defense Initiative missile shield. During the fights over the Clinton scandals, Spratt’s partisan Democrat side could come through during House investigations.

Ever since election night Nov. 5, speculation and rumors have focused on the possibility that some of the more rightward-prone members of the thin cadre of center-right Democrats might switch to the GOP if House Democrats take a sharp turn to the left under the leadership of Congresswoman Pelosi.

United Press International has reported that Pelosi's status change has indeed inspired "several" Democrats to consider bolting the party. NewsMax.com makes no predictions but we are citing the record and what we've heard.

The Contenders

The most conservative Democrat in the House is Ralph Hall of Texas. He sports an 84 percent lifetime rating from ACU and has been active at conservative functions and causes. For example, he was a speaker at a dinner nearly four years ago honoring the House impeachment managers in the case against Bill Clinton. Hall is so conservative that many have wondered why he did not change parties long ago. In fact, he promised that he would vote for Republican Dennis Hastert for re-election as House speaker had his vote been needed to keep the GOP in control. Of course, the Nov. 5 outcome made his vote unnecessary.

However, NewsMax hears that the 79-year-old Hall is likely to retire at the end of this term and is not inclined to make a party switch at this point in his life.

The runner-up for most conservative House Democrat, based on his voting record, is Gene Taylor of Mississippi, who rates a lifetime 74 percent. Taylor has criticized the leadership of his own party and the Republicans. When asked to vote for the October 1998 omnibus budget, he remarked (“characteristically,” says the Almanac), “One of the people [Clinton] asking us to trust him is now being studied to see if he committed perjury.” Taylor is against abortion, gun control, "free trade" and foreign aid.

Feisty to the point of being belligerent, the peppery Southern populist has opposed any U.S military involvement that stops short of total and assured victory. The Almanac says his positions over the years clearly identify Taylor as a protectionist, having voted against NAFTA, GATT and permanent normal trade relations with communist China.

However, when queried by NewsMax.com, a spokesman for Taylor said Thursday that the lawmaker had already told the media in his district that he would not switch parties unless the Republican leadership supported a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution “with no loopholes.” Dennis Hastert has been speaker for 1,411 days, noted the spokesman, and has yet to take that action.

Why this issue should be a sticking point remains a mystery. The Democrat leadership, of course, has never and will never propose a Balanced Budget Amendment.

Running a close third in ACU rankings for House Democrats is Charles Stenholm of Texas, with a 73 percent conservative voting record. In his early days in the House, Stenholm and then-Rep. Phil Gramm were leaders of the “Boll Weevil” Democrats who were instrumental in gaining House approval for the Reagan budget and tax cuts. Gramm resigned from the Democrat party and from Congress and ran for election as a Republican. He succeeded big time and three years later ran and was elected to the Senate, where he became one of its most conservative members.

Stenholm, on the other hand, stuck with the Democrats. In 1985, he threatened briefly to run against Speaker Tip O’Neill, D-Mass., but backed off when O’Neill promised to pay more attention to conservative Democrats' concerns.

All Talk

Though the Texan’s credentials as a conservative derived from his role in the Reagan Revolution, that image faded as the years went by. Some compare him to the man who gets a reputation as an early riser and therefore gets away with sleeping until noon.

Republicans, according to the Almanac, came to view Stenholm “as a conservative talker but a partisan Democratic doer.” Quite often, they complained, he would talk up a conservative initiative and then bail out at the end.

But the lawmaker has voted to allow individual investment accounts as part of Social Security, and was one of five House Democrats who voted to impeach Bill Clinton in 1998.

Again referring to the Almanac, “Stenholm’s party label carries a heavy price in a district that has shed its long-held aversion to voting Republican.” On Nov. 5, he won re-election by a mere 3 percentage points, his closest call yet. His constituents have been voting Republican in recent elections for every other office from president down to county commissioner.

Nonetheless, a spokeswoman for the Texas Democrat told NewsMax that he had just said Thursday that he has been a Democrat for his entire political career, was comfortable remaining a Democrat, and would not switch parties.

Ken Lucas of Kentucky votes conservative two-thirds of the time, according to ACU’s 67 percent rating. On Nov. 5, he beat his GOP opponent Geoff Davis by less than 4 percentage points. In fact, the Cincinnati Enquirer did an analysis Sunday quoting sources in both parties as saying if President Bush had only come into the district and stumped for Davis, the Republicans could have picked up yet another House seat. Doesn't Sound Like a Dem

When he was first elected, Lucas stressed he was a “commonsense conservative, pro-life, pro-gun, and pro-business.” He pledged to fight crime, Internet pornography and welfare fraud. He said he would limit himself to three terms, which would make this term his last if he sticks to that promise.

One could ask what the congressman would have to lose by switching parties in an area whose voters backed President Bush in 2000 by 61 percent to 37 percent. His office had not answered a NewsMax inquiry on this subject as of this writing.

With a 71 percent vote in this fall’s re-election drive, Rep. Mike McIntyre of North Carolina would have less reason than Lucas to feel uncomfortable about his political future as a Democrat. Nonetheless, his 55 percent ACU rating (still way above average for a Democrat) attracts speculation as to whether he would be inclined to cross the aisle. In 1996, his first race, McIntyre beat a party-line left-winger in the primary before going on to win in the general. He has called for smaller government and voted for the proposed constitutional amendment against flag burning, the ban on partial-birth abortion and sunset of the tax code. He posted the Ten Commandments in his office.

By the same token,, the North Carolinian has supported race preferences and quotas and opposed school vouchers.

With backing from the Chamber of Commerce and organized labor, McIntyre told NewsMax through a spokesman that he saw no reason to switch.

Rep. Chris John of Louisiana, pegged at 53 percent conservative by ACU, won with 89 percent of the vote last week. He’s sitting pretty and appears not likely to move. In March 2001, he opposed President Bush’s tax cut, but voted for the final budget resolution and sided with the GOP against Clinton’s costly ergonomics regulations. Dark Horses

These are the lawmakers who would appear most likely to jump. But at the moment they don’t appear ready to do so. Who knows? A conservative voting record is not always the definitive indicator.

Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell of Colorado scored a fairly liberal record as a Democrat. But that did not prevent him from switching to the GOP in 1995. Since then, his record has veered more to the right.

Rep. Collin Peterson, a moderate Democrat from of Minnesota (ACU 44 percent) has been the center of switching talk for years. But again, that’s speculation.

Nancy Pelosi’s promotion to the House Democrats' top spot is just starting to sink in. Perhaps in the days ahead, some conservative and moderate Democrats will rethink their positions on party label.

As of now, there appears to be little action despite UPI's article and a comment to NewsMax by a GOP operative right after the election that there may indeed be some defections. We’ll see.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democratdefections

1 posted on 11/15/2002 10:12:57 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The Democrats do not put up with people leaving their party the way the Republicans do. They play for keeps. These guys are afraid to switch. Why should they? Can they count on Republican Congressional leaders to stand up for them. Those guys don't even stand up for themselves.
2 posted on 11/15/2002 10:18:36 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: Republic of Texas
I remember that a few democrats switched after the 1994 Republican sweep in the House ~ they can't stand being out of power and those who can't stand Pelosi on top of that will either retire or switch over! Just look at what happened in Georgia!
3 posted on 11/15/2002 10:22:41 AM PST by princess leah
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Wrong analysis here. It doesn't matter how they've voted in the past. Anyone with real principle was outta there in '94. The switches will come from Blue guys in Red zones. Any district that voted 60% for Bush in 92 but still has a D rep will vote 70% for bush in '94 and those D's will be gone. I'll guess there's about 10 of them.

Rippin

4 posted on 11/15/2002 10:46:27 AM PST by Rippin
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Too bad Newt isn't still around. He got Rep. Nathan Deal to switch by telling him that if he didn't, Newt himself would get former Sen. Mack Mattingly to run against him, but if Deal did switch, he (Newt) would call off Mattingly.

What the Republican leaders need to do is find the guy these Reps. are afraid of and make a similar promise/threat. But none of them has the cajones to do so.
5 posted on 11/15/2002 11:10:04 AM PST by TBP
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Once Nancy cranks up her 'politics of the left' ways, we MIGHT see some RATS switch to the GOP but I wouldn't hold my breath.
6 posted on 11/15/2002 11:22:59 AM PST by teletech
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To: teletech
Congressman Spratt a lifetime favorable rating of a paltry 27 percent

JUNIOR has a life time voting record of 12..makes spratt look like a moderate.

7 posted on 11/15/2002 11:26:23 AM PST by GailA
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Not sure about Zell Miller's (GA) ACU rating, but he is in an increasingly republican state. GA just elected the first republican governor in over 100 years.

Lately, Zell has reminded me of former senator Sam Nunn, who was a conservative democrat. Zell has spoken passionately about supporting the president and seems to be increasingly frustrated with the liberals within his party.

You might remember he contributed to incumbent Cynthia "Jihad" McKinney's primary opponent Denise Majette. A bold move in my opinion.

I'd love to see Zell switch sides of the aisle.

MillerTime in Atlanta



8 posted on 11/15/2002 11:29:57 AM PST by MillerTimeAtl
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To: MillerTimeAtl
Here is my wild ass guess...no one will switch
9 posted on 11/15/2002 11:33:42 AM PST by BubbaJunebug
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To: MillerTimeAtl
Not sure about Zell Miller's (GA) ACU rating, but he is in an increasingly republican state. GA just elected the first republican governor in over 100 years.

Zell Miller is a loyal Democrat. He is going to resign before switching to Republican Party, even though the Democratic Party left him behind a long time ago.

10 posted on 11/15/2002 11:42:53 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Though defections from Dem to Rep will be big news in state politics this year, I think the better question here would be 'Who announces retirement first'?
I think we will find a string of these great leaders heading for the door being unable to deal with the loss of power. That's all many of them are there for, and this new arrangement is just not going to be any fun.
[For them anyway... ;-) ]
11 posted on 11/15/2002 11:43:00 AM PST by Route66
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To: MinorityRepublican
Sen. Miller's ACU life time rating is 60.
12 posted on 11/15/2002 11:57:20 AM PST by MattMa
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To: Rippin
I'm with you. We'll defeat them in '04 with a real Republican.
13 posted on 11/15/2002 3:20:13 PM PST by Gophack
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To: TBP
What the Republican leaders need to do is find the guy these Reps. are afraid of and make a similar promise/threat. But none of them has the cajones to do so.

DeLay does. But I would rather take them out of circulation completely in 2004.

14 posted on 11/15/2002 3:21:21 PM PST by Gophack
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