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Observations on a dying UK
Free Britannia Journal ^ | November 15, 2002 | A. E. Huggett

Posted on 11/15/2002 9:15:53 AM PST by mgc1122

Like countless others before me, who were born American but developed a love for British tradition, culture, and literature, I truly care about what happens not only in the US but in the UK as well. Over these last three years I traveled an average of four times a year to the UK for personal reasons. Each and every time I observed new inroads of decay and dutifully sounded the alarm to family and friends. England, the England that we know and love, is rapidly being destroyed from within by a combination of factors, some of which are planned, and others accidental. Let me say first and foremost that whatever formerly “benign” socialist engineering the UK might have had has turned virulent in the five years under Tony Blair and New Labour. F. A. Hayek, in his book, The Road To Serfdom, sounded the alarm as early as 1945 when he saw the direction England was headed. Hayek was at one point a socialist and he knew what was being planned. Instead of that “jackboot on the face of humanity forever” that Hayek theorized, Blair is making sure his incompetent socialist dictatorship has designer labels on the heels.

However, the effect is the same. Socialism is grinding down the populace on a daily basis. The destruction of the UK is so noticeable now because Blair and company actively despise the country they run. They are products of Oxford and Eton where anti-British sentiment by ivory tower professors is just as ingrained as the anti-Americanism of our college classes. Couple that anti-British self-righteousness with class snobbery and insatiable greed and you’ll get the current Prime Minister and his lawyer wife. The low-level Scottish thugs he surrounds himself with in his cabinet are actually wrecking historical revenge on England for past events hundreds of years old.

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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
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To: rogerthedodger
I would say that 90% of the real work in making America was done by 1865.

Mindboggling comment that actually means nothing.
61 posted on 11/15/2002 11:29:37 AM PST by No Left Turn
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To: No Left Turn
Simple declarative statement. Taken in the context of the comment to which it was a reply, it means something.

62 posted on 11/15/2002 11:32:57 AM PST by rogerthedodger
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To: No Left Turn
THIS WAS THE COMMENT I RESPONDED TO:

The lesson from the 20th Century was the rise of America as the world's sole superpower. Built up so by people from all around the world who decided to be Americans, not hyphenated Americans. You know, the words hated by the left "...one nation under God".

Care to contrast or compare to the current events in Britain? Are the immigrants, legal or otherwise, coming to be British or recreate the shiiteholistan they came from?

NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS SAYING? The foundation for superpower status was built long before the 20th Century began. In fact, the predicate was laid when the United States was still a mono-ethnic/Old Immigration country, the myth of the melting pot notwithstanding.
63 posted on 11/15/2002 11:35:33 AM PST by rogerthedodger
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To: rogerthedodger
Unfortunately, more and more, people don't want to make themselves into Americans, but make their little corner of America into a copy of the place they left.

Assimilation in the US is alive and well. Look to immigrants' children and thank American teenagers. In fact assimilation of Europe's youth into American culture is also alive and well.
64 posted on 11/15/2002 11:35:49 AM PST by No Left Turn
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To: mgc1122
The final nails in the coffin of the UK came just this week in the form of the Queen’s speech on the opening of parliament. In it she rubber stamped New Labour’s socialist agenda for the final dismemberment of the UK through devolution and the partitioning of England into regional assemblies as mandated by the EU but modeled on the plans Hitler drew up when he was confident of conquering the UK during WWII. Her speech also included Labour’s plan to destroy the British judicial system, allow for foreign police to arrest British citizens in the UK, and the abandonment on a nation wide referendum on the Euro, which Blair knows he would lose. The official death of the UK is scheduled for June 2003.

Scarry stuff and bewildering to see the nation of Winston Churchill end up a slave and subordinate state to the EU. They are quickly setting the stage for a united states of Europe with a single leader that will lead to the master plan to control the world populace. There next target will be to dissarm America.

65 posted on 11/15/2002 11:39:24 AM PST by Mat_Helm
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To: No Left Turn
My experience seems to tell me other wise. Maybe things in your part of the country are different than in mine, but then again, I'm 200 miles from the invasion front.
66 posted on 11/15/2002 11:39:32 AM PST by rogerthedodger
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To: rogerthedodger
Hmmm. Considering how much America evolved, (culturally, politically, militarily, educationally) since 1865 to be a sole superpower, the percentage seems a bit low. You might be closer to the mark if you had said 1965 ...
67 posted on 11/15/2002 11:39:52 AM PST by mgc1122
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To: mgc1122
Well, I count the following: independence from the mother country had been hard fought and won, other than the wasteland of Alaska and tiny Hawaii, all the territory had been conquered, the number one native enemy had been defeated after centuries of brutal war and civilian depredations, the constitutional system had been established, the ancestors of probably 2/3 of the current population were already here, the forests and wilderness had been largely cleared, most of the cities were established, the enemy to the South had been defeated and a good chunk of its territory taken.

Sure, things have changed, we've even grown. But I think most of the real hard work, the back breaking work, the dangerous period, was already done.
68 posted on 11/15/2002 11:44:29 AM PST by rogerthedodger
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To: rogerthedodger
I wish I had more time now to discuss this, but from my perspective, the premise is interesting but overlooks a lot of major contributions past 1865 which helped shaped America, and as a result the world. There is more to the story than the creation of cities, and primitive infrastructure. Cheers. Hope you have a good weekend.
69 posted on 11/15/2002 11:48:37 AM PST by mgc1122
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To: rogerthedodger
I would say that 90% of the real work in making America was done by 1865.

This was what you said. You later amended your comment to say: The foundation for superpower status was built long before the 20th Century began.

You also said: In fact, the predicate was laid when the United States was still a mono-ethnic/Old Immigration country, the myth of the melting pot notwithstanding.

I agree that the principles that got us where we are were in place before the 20th Century, but most of the work was done in the 20th Century, by assisimilated immigrants and their talents. That will continue well into the current century.
70 posted on 11/15/2002 11:50:21 AM PST by No Left Turn
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To: mgc1122
Likewise, I'd like to hear your opinion sometime.

71 posted on 11/15/2002 11:50:53 AM PST by rogerthedodger
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To: No Left Turn
Well, I wish I shared your optimism.
72 posted on 11/15/2002 11:52:13 AM PST by rogerthedodger
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To: rogerthedodger
I do see that you're from Texas, and I think you have a different situation down there. I think Mexicans have a sense of entitlement to US jobs and services and don't see legal immigration as something they have to concern themselves with. I'm in NJ, with many Cuban, Puerto Rican and Asian immigrants. While there is definitely some anti-Americanism in these groups, I would say many in these groups that get here are glad to have arrived and usually assimilate, especially the Cubans.
73 posted on 11/15/2002 11:57:47 AM PST by No Left Turn
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To: No Left Turn
I think Mexicans have a sense of entitlement to US jobs and services and don't see legal immigration as something they have to concern themselves with.

Exactly.

74 posted on 11/15/2002 12:08:37 PM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: sam_paine
Wake up pal. We are only a little way behind the Brits in this matter. The immigration strategies for destruction of Britain are also being used here. Maybe when Cali.,Arizona, New Mexico,Texas and Nevada are part of Mexico we will get a clue. But it will be ok because Jorge will be pushing it.
75 posted on 11/15/2002 12:25:05 PM PST by willyone
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To: sam_paine
In many cases, a people get the government they deserve.

I beg to differ slightly. It is a certainty that the people will eventually get the government they desire.

78 posted on 11/15/2002 1:51:20 PM PST by roderick
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To: MadIvan
Two years into Clinton I, Newt Gingrich emerged with the Contract with America, which put the Republicans in control of the House and laid the groundwork for the Republican control we have today.

This article points out the opportunity the Tories missed at the large rally and I don't see any conservative on the horizon with Newt's energy or charisma or strategy to combat the Blair effect (a cameleon who could simultaneously be Clinton's best bud and W.'s new best friend).

79 posted on 11/15/2002 2:03:26 PM PST by MHT
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To: willyone
Ooooo-kay, "pal."

(And Sam snickers under his breath as he leaves, "What a dork.")

80 posted on 11/15/2002 2:11:27 PM PST by sam_paine
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