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1 posted on 11/13/2002 11:23:24 PM PST by chance33_98
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Unix and its variants are here to stay. Anyone who has studied and used the paradigm understands that it is the flower of intellectual thought and the pinnacle of man's achievements. Ken Thompson was a prophet.
2 posted on 11/13/2002 11:37:11 PM PST by SpaceBar
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Ping! No mention of Apple in all that talk. And as far as Unix I see Solaris as dominating the Unix market a little ahead of HP-UX (Not vastly ahead, just a trend I have been seeing at both work in trade mags, and it is just my humbly biased opinion). In the market I am in we are phasing out most unix OSes except Solaris, and are in the process now of converting most unix apps over to solaris apps on Sunfire servers - not just one or two but hundreds of servers.

Linux will continue to grow in this market, but IT managers seem wary of converting over from Solaris or HP-UX right now in some businesses. Personally I see Linux dominating the small to mid size businesses and Unix being the mainstay of the larger corporate world - one reason being single source, we have agreements with SUN to manage all the hardware and OS and if we have problems we have one company and one OS to deal with and those are highlighted by a large, organized company backing them.

My point in that is there is a 'feeling' of security when dealing with a company where the hardware and OS are backed up with years of technology and direction, whereas many I have talked to (rightly or wrongly) see Linux more as loosely affiliated group of dedicated users and developers without a big organization to back them up when in need. If the big Linux ditributors overcome this I can see it getting more of a corporate foothold (it already has some) in the high end back room server market.

Disclosure note: I work at a data center for a bank and we deal in very high end applications to serve large companies' financial needs, as well as general population banking, and the thought of converting all those apps onto Linux machines scares the heck out of people. We run several different unix OSes, though mainly Solaris now, and windows 2000 advanced/datacenter servers for a variety of web applications. While we do have a large group of main frames still in use (and probably will for many years to come) we have been migrating some of those to high end sunfire boxes (a trend that will continue).

3 posted on 11/13/2002 11:45:16 PM PST by chance33_98
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"There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."
Jeremy S. Anderson
6 posted on 11/14/2002 5:01:39 AM PST by zx2dragon
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What the hell is he smoking? BSD is one of the two main variants of UNIX. To say that UNIX is dying is rubbish because the BSDs (which includes OSX) are growing.
17 posted on 11/15/2002 8:52:21 AM PST by dheretic
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