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To: Fred Mertz
all these transactions and communications will go into what the Defense Department describes as "a virtual, centralized grand database."

I think that Safire is adding 2 + 2 to get five here. That language is related to DARPA, and DARPA is not even mentioned in HR 5005. The government envisions such a database to investigate terrorist networks. But no such critter exists yet, and I don't think the technology is there yet. The Defense Department Authorization allocates funds to DARPA to encourage research towards such a database. But, IMO, the Homeland Security Bill as passed by the House does NOT contain legal provisions to authorize the government to collect ALL credit card transaction data (as opposed to the $10,000+ threshhold established by the Patriot Act, of which the vast majority of businesses in this country are NOT aware, so the feds have extended the deadline for implementation).

86 posted on 11/14/2002 6:43:39 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
They do not need authorization. Any incursions can be justified as part of the "war against terrorism". If you don't believe me, watch and see. Report back in 2 years, if FR is allowed to exist.
147 posted on 11/14/2002 12:24:05 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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