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Re-enactors plan to protest Klan
Sun Herald ^ | Nov. 13, 2002 | TOM WILEMON

Posted on 11/13/2002 11:14:51 AM PST by stainlessbanner

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To: WhiskeyPapa
Is he a cross-dresser too? Okay, okay, I know Varina didn't mean to dress J.D. up in women's clothing....... Walt

Don't you ever get tired of rehashing that old fable?

41 posted on 11/13/2002 1:03:53 PM PST by varina davis
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To: Britton J Wingfield
That is strange. Also, didn't Screwdriver redo "Sweet Home Alabama" at one point?
42 posted on 11/13/2002 1:41:15 PM PST by Sam's Army
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To: Sam's Army
I wouldn't be suprised. British and American morons have a habit of adopting each other's localisms, even when they make absolutely no sense at all.

Luckily, I haven't been subjected to skrewdriver in years.
43 posted on 11/13/2002 1:45:55 PM PST by Britton J Wingfield
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To: Britton J Wingfield
The 1979 KKK-CWP shootout in Greensboro NC
45 posted on 11/13/2002 1:51:47 PM PST by AppyPappy
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To: stainlessbanner
Trouble is,these re-enactors would NOT protest the NAACP!
46 posted on 11/13/2002 2:23:31 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: AppyPappy
Kluckers vs. Commies - a dream match from Heaven, yum yum! There couldn't be two groups of bottom-feeding trash that deserved one another more.
47 posted on 11/13/2002 2:49:27 PM PST by coydog
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To: ArrogantBustard
The point of his post is that Wlat is a troll. In fact, he goes beyond mere trolling.

He's also a liar to boot. He had his clock cleaned by a poster (handle of something like Who is John Galt) who had actual sourced historical facts to crush his innuendo and opinion. It was fun to watch. I'm sure it will happen again soon, too.

Like you said, though, the best thing to do is ignore the boy.

48 posted on 11/13/2002 2:54:39 PM PST by Hacksaw
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To: WhiskeyPapa
The coat that Jefferson Davis was wearing when he was captured by the Union Cavalry is on display at Beauvoir in Biloxi, Mississippi. It is a mans' overcoat but with your wealth of non-prejudicial and unquestionable knowledge you already knew that.
49 posted on 11/13/2002 3:32:59 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Constitution Day
Where *is* that Confederate flag, hmmm?

Right here.


50 posted on 11/13/2002 3:40:24 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Dutch-Comfort
Do you have any evidence for your insulting accusation that
"the heritage of the KKK and the heritage of the SCV strangely contains all the same people in many generations back." ? That is very insulting to me personally and to many other SCVs I know, none of whom would have been Klansmen. And you are aware, I trust, that the Klan has been strongest in places like Kansas, rather than the South, since the 1920's? Back up your charge or apologize.
51 posted on 11/13/2002 4:24:51 PM PST by docmcb
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To: docmcb
And you are aware, I trust, that the Klan has been strongest in places like Kansas, rather than the South, since the 1920's?

I will add this:

I recently moved from California to central Virginia.

There is far less apparent racism here than there was in California. It is not unusual at all to blacks and whites playing sports together or otherwise socializing with each other.

I think, for the most part anyway, the South simply got over it.

52 posted on 11/13/2002 5:09:11 PM PST by The Other Harry
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To: Constitution Day; stainlessbanner
Yeah that's right. I claimed that over on a 'vanity' thread. And God bless Michael Kelley for standing up for what's right. Unfortunately these idiots in sheets won't have any idea what he's talking about. The very fact these racists are walking around in white robes instead of wearing stove pipe hats shows they have been sold the revisionist history very well.
53 posted on 11/13/2002 5:10:03 PM PST by billbears
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To: billbears
The very fact these racists are walking around in white robes instead of wearing stove pipe hats shows they have been sold the revisionist history very well.

They may have bought it, but they are relics. A-holes exist everywhere. Fortunately, there aren't all that many of them. We can overcome.

54 posted on 11/13/2002 5:33:37 PM PST by The Other Harry
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To: WhiskeyPapa
"You know that when those Klansmen shot those five people in Greensborough in 1979, they were carrying the same flag as the CSA re-enactors."

Is there supposed to be something significant in that? Klansmen have also often carried the Stars and Stripes. Probably far more often than they carried the Confederate Battle flag.

The thought processes of you Union apologists really baffle me.

55 posted on 11/13/2002 8:59:51 PM PST by Aurelius
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To: docmcb
And you are aware, I trust, that the Klan has been strongest in places like Kansas, rather than the South, since the 1920's? Back up your charge or apologize.

Whoa there, Sunshine. I live in Kansas and I am not aware of any Klan activity, any Klan chapter, any Klan sympathy at all in the state. I'll ask you to back up your charges or apologize.

57 posted on 11/14/2002 3:43:27 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Do a Google search for "Ku Klux Klan" and Kansas and you'll get 8000+ hits. The following is from the Kansas State Historical Society and corresponds to what I believe is the truth. The KKK of the 1920's and after was as much or more focused on anti-Jewish and anti-Roman Catholic prejudice as it was anti-black. I'm not saying the Klan is strong TODAY in Kansas; I don't think it's strong anywhere, thank God.

"The Klan first infiltrated Kansas in mid-1921. It claimed to be a reform group promoting Christianity and white supremacy and arguing for limits on foreign immigration. Hostile toward a long list of "undesirable" persons, the Klan's main efforts focused against Catholics. Klansmen kidnaped and assaulted the Catholic mayor of Liberty after he refused them use of a hall he owned. Although many people agreed with the Klan's creed - as many as 200,000 Kansans may have been Klan members - most disliked its tactics. One journalist described the situation:

"Neighborhood after neighborhood, which had been peaceful and friendly . . . split into hostile groups by the Klan's arrival. Although actual violence was rare . . . communities lived in a state of uneasiness amounting to terror; and the Klans did not scruple to threaten even when they were too cowardly to execute." - World's Work, August 1923

Not all Kansans supported the Klan, of course. One University of Kansas student wrote a satirical song, Daddy Stole Our Last Clean Sheet and Joined the Ku Klux Klan, that sold nationally. Newspaper publisher and Pulitzer Prize winning journalist William Allen White called the Klan "an organization of cowards" and mounted an anti-Klan gubernatorial campaign in 1924. Another who openly fought the organization was Henry Allen, also a journalist and Kansas Governor at the time of the Klan's infiltration. To White and Allen the Klan was not comprised of anonymous strangers but of fellow newspaper men, Methodists, and Masonic Lodge brothers.

Concerned that the Klan would disrupt government and cause civil unrest, Governor Allen embarked on a public campaign against the group. When the Klan threatened to parade hooded horsemen through Arkansas City on July 4, 1922, Allen declared it illegal to wear masks on Kansas streets. Although admitting he didn't like the Catholic church either, Allen declared the Klan's tactics "un-American." By reviling the Klan publicly, Allen hoped to create a division within its ranks pitting the moderate majority against the violent minority.

After months of investigating the Klan's activities at Allen's behest, the State Attorney General filed a petition with the Kansas Supreme Court charging that the Klan was a foreign corporation which required a Kansas charter to engage in business.

Under attack by the Attorney General, the Kansas Klan was already near death at the time the case reached the Supreme Court. Allen's efforts had helped create a schism between the terrorist wing and the peaceful but narrowminded majority, and Klan membership had begun to decline. Internal battles also developed over mismanagement of the group's finances. On January 25, 1925, the Kansas Supreme Court ruled for the Attorney General and Kansas became the first state to legally oust the Klan.

Glad to provide a little sunshine for you!

58 posted on 11/14/2002 6:28:46 AM PST by docmcb
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To: Aurelius
The thought processes of you Union apologists really baffle me.

The so-called CSA needs all the apologizing it can get. The Union does not.

Walt

59 posted on 11/14/2002 6:53:01 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: billbears
The very fact these racists are walking around in white robes instead of wearing stove pipe hats shows they have been sold the revisionist history very well.

Stove pipe hats, stove pipe hats....care to give a name to your pain? And anything in the record that will support it?

"Viewing the man from the genuine abolishionist ground, Mr. Lincoln seemed cold, tardy, weak and unequal to the task. But, viewing him from the sentiments of his people, which as a statesman he was bound to respect, then his actions were swift, bold, radical and decisive. Taking the man in the whole, balancing the tremendous magnitude of the situation, and the necessary means to ends, Infinite Wisdom has rarely sent a man into the world more perfectly suited to his mission than Abraham Lincoln."

--Frederick Douglass

Walt

60 posted on 11/14/2002 7:00:09 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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