Alberta farmers go to jail to fight the CWB over freedom, private property and justice

The Report ^ | November 18, 2002 | by Candis McLean

[bigfootbob]

You guys need an old fashioned tea party. One like we had several hundred years ago in Boston Harbor.

[Alberta's Child]

I don't understand the whole CWB issue enough to comment on it one way or another, but I should point out to my fellow U.S. Freepers that Alberta farmers are the type of people who make Jesse Helms seem like a gay communist.

I noticed that a couple of those guys are from the Viking area. The spirit of the Sutter brothers lives on!

[Ciexyz]

Solidarity bump! This sounds like a great miscarriage of justice. Sheesh, America is facing wheat dumping, steel dumping, etc. etc.

[Trouble North of the Border]

Free Dominion is storming the Bastille in Ottawa on November 18th. If you live close to the border, why not come join Connie and Mark "on the Hill".

Calgary Herald Article
http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7693

The Storming the Bastille Thread
http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7597&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

For more information on the Canadian Wheat Board's imprisonment of Canadian farmers for selling wheat FD's exclusive coverage of Lethbridge rally
http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7552

[#3Fan]

I don't understand the whole CWB issue enough to comment on it one way or another, but I should point out to my fellow U.S. Freepers that Alberta farmers are the type of people who make Jesse Helms seem like a gay communist.

Time for these western provinces to secede and apply for statehood to the U.S. We could use 10 more freedom-loving senators. :^)

[Trouble North of the Border]

Elected Senators, what a concept! Only something western Canada has wanted...forever!

Here is the FR thread on the new Calgary Herald article regarding Free Dominion storming the Ottawa Bastille, November 18th.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/788172/posts

[#3Fan]

Elected Senators, what a concept! Only something western Canada has wanted...forever!

Why don't the House of Commons representatives from your provinces don't have the power to control the abuses of the federal government?

Here is the FR thread on the new Calgary Herald article regarding Free Dominion storming the Ottawa Bastille, November 18th.

Glad to see you're getting support from the eastern farmers.

[canadiancapitalist]

Nice to know there are more Canadians out there that aren't Marxists.

[Trouble North of the Border]

Our Parliamentary system is set up totally first past the post. Purely on population, we have no electoral college to protect less populated regions from over populated regions. Because it is a Parliamentary system there are almost NO FREE votes. No one in the Liberal party can vote against the Prime Minister. If the PM feels a vote of non-confidence coming (like one that happened last week) then he makes it a FREE vote (he couldn't get away with this on the budget though - at least we don't think so, of course that's been rescheduled for next year).

Our Senate is a lame duck issue. A lot of people want to end the Senate completely.

The western approach via the Reform and now Alliance party has been to advance the idea of an elected Senate similar to the States. Tripple E, equal, elected and effective. But thanks to our lame duck Parliamentary system, it is almost impossible to get anywhere with this most basic need, if Canada is to stay together as a country.

We elect Senators in Alberta, and wait and wait and wait for PM Chretien to appoint them. But of course he doesn't, not even when current Senator(s) die or retire. Of course, he appoints his friends.

We had one of our elected Albertan Senators appointed by the last conservative government, but that was a very, very long time ago.

Our only opposition to the Federal Government is our provincial governments. Alberta's Ralph Klein has been taking a strong stand on this issue as well as Kyoto. However, if it comes to a constitutional challenge, we already know it will be a 5-4 decision against anything Alberta would put forward.

Yes, Canada is a country in constitutional crisis. It is so long term, however, that the apathy is almost unapproachable.

Yet we fight on! Storm the Bastille!

[#3Fan]

But thanks to our lame duck Parliamentary system, it is almost impossible to get anywhere with this most basic need, if Canada is to stay together as a country.

What do the people of the western provinces want to do in the event that Canada splits into two countries as a result of your continuing constitutional crisis?

[bigfootbob]

Boy, have I noticed!!!

[SAJ]

The CWB is very simple. The government 'lets' the farmers grow wheat, barley, and one other grain I forget right now. Then the government tells the farmer when, where, at what price, and under what conditions the farmer can sell, store, or give away his grain. This is oversimplified, to be sure, but it is the net-net of the old Wheat Act and its successor legislation. Administrative conviction for 'offenses' not specified in law.

Boiled down to its essense, the motto of CWB is:

All your wheat are now belong to us.

--signed--
Your Friendly Neighbourhood Wheat Trader

[malamute]

while i agree with your comment that Alberta should separate from the rest of Canada, i can't agree that we should apply for statehood, as much as i admire your country.

liberty should be earned, not 'granted' by achieving American statehood. until that day comes when my fellow Albertans are ready to earn their liberty, we deserve to be slaves to the political elitists in eastern Canuckistan and the soviet styled CWB.

should we secede, i would very much like to see an Albertan Constitution based upon the American Constitution, as it has always been a model for the world to emulate.

NO TO KYOTO AND NO TO THE CWB.

FREE ALBERTA !

[#3Fan]

while i agree with your comment that Alberta should separate from the rest of Canada, i can't agree that we should apply for statehood, as much as i admire your country.

Not knowing what the western Canadians are wanting to do in the case of a split, I was half-joking.

liberty should be earned, not 'granted' by achieving American statehood. until that day comes when my fellow Albertans are ready to earn their liberty, we deserve to be slaves to the political elitists in eastern Canuckistan and the soviet styled CWB. should we secede, i would very much like to see an Albertan Constitution based upon the American Constitution, as it has always been a model for the world to emulate. NO TO KYOTO AND NO TO THE CWB. FREE ALBERTA !

Sounds good!

[conniew]

Nice to know there are more Canadians out there that aren't Marxists.

You are not alone, canadiancapitalist. I believe we are the (too) silent majority.

[quietolong]

bump

[Trouble North of the Border]

You make an excellent point.

"What do the people of the western provinces want to do in the event that Canada splits into two countries as a result of your continuing constitutional crisis?"

Western Canadians are not natural seperatists. We still want into confederation rather then out, there is a sentimental attachment. I don't believe we've thought it through as to what we do after we seperate.

Seperation is going to be discussed as potential provincial PC policy next provincial Convention as per Premier Klein, your question needs to be examined by all who want seperation.

Seperation has gone from wacko right wing status to main stream Albertan conservatism. 1 in 4 Albertans wants to seperate. I beleive once Albertans start to focus on "What do the people of the western provinces want to do in the event that Canada splits" then seperation will be closer to reality then we realise. Quebec has had many referendums on teh issue, however, I believe before it comes to a vote Albertans will have all their ducks in a row as to the next stage - what do we want after we seperate - and then Albertans, unlike Quebecois, will likely seperate - rather then just threaten.

That is the nature of Alberta. We like strong leaders to protect us from Ottawa and when we say something, we do it. No messing around.

[canadiancapitalist]

I'd like to speak out more but up here speaking out is frowned upon especially if it challenges socialist orthodoxy.