[purple haze]

I'm interested to see how this flies here. I think it's one of the most objective pieces on this topic I've yet read.

[Drango]

Germany became the first nation to grant animals a constitutional right:

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[Kaiwen]

A tension has always existed between the capitalist imperative to maximize efficiency and the moral imperatives of religion or community, which have historically served as a counterweight to the moral blindness of the market. This is one of ''the cultural contradictions of capitalism'' -- the tendency of the economic impulse to erode the moral underpinnings of society.

Fantastic article. Really thought provoking.

[Hank Kerchief]

If we don't eat animals, where will we get meat?

Hank

[briant]

The types of farms mentioned here as a substitute for the current factory farms will probably increase in number. I think many people are offended by the images of factory farming, but are still going to desire meat. The PETA/Singer approach is simply antithetical to human and animal nature.

[HetLoo]

I didn't read it. Don't have a NYT account but I'm willing to bet he didn't include this argument against vegetarianism...

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