"(4) has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution;"
Now I would read that to mean, in part one, that someone who has been adjudicated in a court of competent jurisdiction as a homicidal sociopath, as an example, that it would not be a good idea for them to own a gun. Okay, sounds reasonable. Moreover, in the second part I would interpret that to mean someone who is currently a resident of a mental institution. Again, fair enough, as I think it is safe to say that one would not want inmates of a mental hospital running around with firearms.
Now, let’s take a look at what they are proposing in these bills.
“The bill also reaches for a gun owning prohibition on nearly 3 million more Americans who have spent time in mental health facilities. This group has no more involvement in violent crime than does the rest of the population”
So does that mean that if 20 years ago while you where going through a divorce, had financial problems, and lost your job, and you decide to check into Charter for emotional problems for 15 days, that you are now no longer eligible to own a firearm to protect yourself and your family. Incidentally, the 3 million figure they quote that would fit that definition is way low. If you have doubts about that, look in any major metropolitan area phone book and you will find that mental health facilities are big business these days.
” or who have been written a prescription for depression”
Having worked for Eli Lilly, the makers of Prozac, a drug for bi-polar disorder, I can assure you that there are millions of people in this country that take this drug on a daily basis. I am sure you know people who take Prozac, but you are probably unaware that they do. In fact, you might find that some of your buddies down at your local gun club take Prozac.
In case you are unfamiliar with bi-polar disorder, it is a chemical imbalance in the brain that people are born with and sometimes manifest itself as depression, it is not something that they have created or contributed to through their behavior, aside from not taking their medication on a regular bases. Do you believe that these people should also be deprived of their Constitutional rights to protect themselves and their families?
” The bill would also help FBI officials to effectively stop millions of additional Americans from purchasing a firearm, because they were guilty in the past of committing slight misdemeanors.”
Oops, hope they don’t find out about that J-walking thing.
“It could require that states forward information concerning drug diversion programs and arrests that do not lead to prosecution, in order to determine whether a person was an unlawful user of... any controlled substance”
So in other words if that state simply alleges that one might have abused any controlled substances, and I am assuming that would include illegal as well as prescription narcotics, but in fact did not have enough evidence to bring proceedings against you to prove their case. That would be good enough for you to deprive people of the right to protect themselves?
” When they start trying to pass laws defining the desire to own, carry, or operate firearms as a "mental defect," then I'll be actually worried.”
Well if you support these kinds of bills that day wont be far away. Paranoid delusion comes to mind just off the top of my head.
Nope. The bill's §102(b)(3)(C) exempts voluntary commitments.
Having worked for Eli Lilly, the makers of Prozac, a drug for bi-polar disorder, I can assure you that there are millions of people in this country that take this drug on a daily basis. I am sure you know people who take Prozac, but you are probably unaware that they do. In fact, you might find that some of your buddies down at your local gun club take Prozac.
I take Celexa myself, and have found that it runs in my family, back generations. But the claim that HR 4757 includes some sort of provision for barring those who have been written a prescription for anti-depressants from owning firearms is at best, outlandish hyperbole designed to elicit contributions, or simply an outright lie.
The text of the bill passed by the house is available on the THOMAS system. And none of the three versions include any mention of prescription drugs or clinical depression.
The bill would also help FBI officials to effectively stop millions of additional Americans from purchasing a firearm, because they were guilty in the past of committing slight misdemeanors.
Oops, hope they don’t find out about that J-walking thing.
Har de har. Can the hyperbole. I find it rather troubling that they are describing wife-beating as a "slight" misdemeanor. I thought we got over that attitude by the 80's at the latest.
“It could require that states forward information concerning drug diversion programs and arrests that do not lead to prosecution...
Shouldn't we be more concerned with what it actually does require, rather than what it could, or might, or enitrely possibly may require?